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vegan vs vegetarian

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yellowbikini · 01/12/2021 21:38

I am currently putting together a menu for a vegan dinner (first time I have attempted this). I am trying to be meticulous and making sure everything I use is vegan. I am a bit confused though, some items, eg a jar of olives, are labelled as suitable for vegetarians, I can't see anything unsuitable for vegans in the ingredients. Am I missing something?

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askingforafriend80 · 01/12/2021 21:43

It can sometimes be due to cross contamination. So if it’s processed in a factory that also handles milk it might not be able to say vegan IFKWIM

askingforafriend80 · 01/12/2021 21:43

So short answer probably not Grin

ISeeTheLight · 01/12/2021 21:44

A lot of things don't say suitable for vegans. Many things are "accidentally vegan." You need to check the ingredients.

AvocadoAndToast · 01/12/2021 21:45

Lots of things aren’t labelled vegan that are.
Luckily, eggs and milk have to be highlighted in bold so it’s only honey and a few rarer ingredients like certain E numbers you have to watch closely for.

ISeeTheLight · 01/12/2021 21:47

Also don't get anything with gelatine in (it comes from pigs).

yellowbikini · 01/12/2021 21:51

Thank you. I know about honey, also seen potential 'cross contamination' while I was shopping but had no idea about E numbers.

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Thwackit · 01/12/2021 21:53

I’m just here to say how lovely of you to take so much care over this.

AvocadoAndToast · 01/12/2021 22:00

Yeah cross contamination is fine for vegans - it’s a warning for people with serious allergies that their may be a trace from being in the same factory.
You are a fab friend - enjoy your vegan dinner.

ComtesseDeSpair · 01/12/2021 22:02

Some vegans won’t eat olives because the industrial harvesting method can cause inure and kill a lot of wildlife: www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/songbirds-death-toll-millions-mediterranean-olive-harvesting-winter-a8916471.html

It’s often useful to ask your vegan guests quite how vegan they are. Some wouldn’t know or be bothered about the olive situation, others very much would.

AvocadoAndToast · 01/12/2021 22:08

vegsoc.org/info-hub/veggie-need-to-know/e-numbers/
Is the info on E numbers.

Olives are absolutely vegan as they literally grow on a plant and don’t contain any animal products. Even palm oil is actually vegan (although most is arguably not ethical) and is a widely contested and often banned topic on most vegan forums (unlike olives which are never mentioned as a problem!). I’ve never come across a single vegan who refuses to eat olives on ethical grounds FWIW.

yellowbikini · 01/12/2021 22:35

I am lucky that my friends know this is my first time trying to make a vegan meal. I also know they are not overly strict, just do their best, so if I slip up on an E number, I don't think they will mind too much. Last time we all went out to eat together I had beef carpaccio!

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yellowbikini · 03/12/2021 19:33

Thanks for the tips. All went well, apart from the fact they asked if they could take the leftovers with them!!!

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