School want to see covid result

[Poolhater]

I’m just after a bit of perspective as not sure that I’m just being a bit blaze about it!

I’ve kids at three different schools. Neither of the senior schools want to see (PCR) covid result if the kids have to have a test but the primary school always asks.

To put this into context, the primary school has also said kids with cold symptoms must be tested and receive negative results before return to School. Whereas neither of the senior schools have said that - they only want covid tests if displaying the covid symptoms as set out by NHS (cough, high temp, change in smell/taste).

My sister, (a teacher at a different primary) also has children in the same primary school as my kids. She thinks that they are wrong to ask for us to email in the test results (to be clear, they aren’t asking for us to email in “Little Miss Poolhater has tested negative” but actually want us to forward on the test result that we receive). She thinks this breaches confidentiality. I’m of the view, if it keeps the cogs turning, I will do it.

So who is being unreasonable here, me - I will happily send it in, or my sister - why should they have it and not just take our word for it?

I should add, I think my sister is frustrated by their requirement to keep kids off with cold symptoms (who are otherwise well) but their refusal to provide any work for those same kids on day one of that absence.

You can't get a pcr for a cold though?

This. And schools should not be requiring children to get PCR tests unless they have a temperature, loss of taste or smell or a new continuous cough.

@DeepaBeesKit

You can't get a pcr for a cold though?

This. And schools should not be requiring children to get PCR tests unless they have a temperature, loss of taste or smell or a new continuous cough.

In England. In some parts of the UK you can get a PCR test just because you’re feeling a bit ‘off’, you don’t need to have those symptoms.

I’m not sure why anyone would have a problem with sending the results unless they weren’t actually testing. Results don’t include any information that they don’t already know.

The primary is currently requesting all children are tested if they have any cold symptoms/ fatigue

If this is in england, its not permitted and is a misuse of state resources. The tests aren't free. Every single one costs the government money, let's all remember that next time school or hospital budgets get cut.

My daughter has just been off school due to a cold. Thankfully and touch wood she's never unwell usually but this year she's had about three awful colds. I've tested her for COVID but school have never requested any testing or proof of testing before she's been allowed back. It isn't something that would bother me if they did as I can't see it would breach any confidentiality - at least not enough for me to feel worried about anyway.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy

Did you read it?[/quote]
Please re read my OP. I’m not moaning about it.

@MrsSkylerWhite

Poolhater

Thanks all.

I’ve been known to be massively off key with some things, but this, I’m glad, I’m with the majority!“

Are you? Most seem to think it’s a sensible request .

There’s nothing on there that school doesn’t already know. What’s the issue?

Err, yes, I am.

Please re read my OP. I’m not the one with the problem providing the proof.

Given that you'd have to tell them the result to get them back into school, can't see that proofing what you say breaches confidentiality - you've already released the information - screenshot/email just proves it's true.

Dumplingsandstew - sorry didn’t mean to quote you. Meant to quote greenfingers (is it me or is the quote below the posts on a mobile but above on other devices?).

To confirm, Dumplings, I agree with you. Green fingers should re read my original post!

Poolhater

MrsSkylerWhite
Poolhater

Thanks all.

I’ve been known to be massively off key with some things, but this, I’m glad, I’m with the majority!“

Are you? Most seem to think it’s a sensible request .

There’s nothing on there that school doesn’t already know. What’s the issue?
Err, yes, I am.

Please re read my OP. I’m not the one with the problem providing the proof.“

My apologies, I misread/misunderstood.

@eternalopt

Given that you'd have to tell them the result to get them back into school, can't see that proofing what you say breaches confidentiality - you've already released the information - screenshot/email just proves it's true.

And that was more or less what I said to my sister!

@MrsSkylerWhite

Poolhater

MrsSkylerWhite
Poolhater

Thanks all.

I’ve been known to be massively off key with some things, but this, I’m glad, I’m with the majority!“

Are you? Most seem to think it’s a sensible request .

There’s nothing on there that school doesn’t already know. What’s the issue?
Err, yes, I am.

Please re read my OP. I’m not the one with the problem providing the proof.“

My apologies, I misread/misunderstood.

OP

Schools are not allowed to instsnt on PCR for contacts

They cannot limit attendance based on being contacts - these schools stooping kids atteninding as contacts until theyve had a test are wrong - this is not allowed!! Government guidance was clear thats chols cannot make rules up

You absolutely cannot be stopped going to school whether you've had pcr or not and asking to see it???? They are taking the piss.

I cannot believe parents are falling for this level of control. My kids have been contacts dozens of times and have never had a pcr and never will. School have never even asked.

Schools are not in control of contacts anymore - that responsiblity is down to track and trace - they shouldn't even be identifying contacts. It's written clearly in the government guidance for schools.

Schools are not in control of contacts anymore - that responsiblity is down to track and trace

I'm assuming you mean Test and Trace? I'm sure Royal Mail have enough on their plates without contact tracing.

Yes think most people still call is track and trace to be honest!

Yes its clear schools do not identify contacts - its T&T job so noone should be asked to take any test as its not the schools job to say if someone is a contact or not. They are seriously over stepping.

Here you go OP - Government.uk

"Children should only be tested if they have Covid-19 symptoms or have been asked to get tested by Test & Trace. In these circumstances schools may wish to see the negative results and could agree this with parents. Schools cannot insist on this"

Sending in evidence of negative PCR tests seems standard practice around here. I’m happy to do it to help keep Covid out of my kids classes!

The issue is that these schools who make their own rules up are disadvantaging kids. Kids have to isolate and go for PCR, taking 2-3 days off at a time i imagine. Do that a few times and you can see how attendance drops.

My dc, in particular my ds in year 11, hasn't missed a day all year as their school doesn't do this. Yesterday someone on another thread said because of pcr for contacts, her child was at 80% attendance. That is terrible for year 11 and when kids get their grades its easy to see how that could lead to some kids being unfairly disadvantaged long term.

They will be looked on in future against their peers and schools were given guidance to ensure equality and fairness and to stop schools causing further disadvantage to kids who've already missed so much.

When it comes to going to college/uni, those schools whove caused kids to miss more than others will cause an impact on individuals

@Watapalava

Why are you waffling about contacts? The OP is talking about those with suspected symptoms

The school are unreasonable to go against the rules that say they cannot insist on evidence of negative test. Whether or not we think that is right those are the rules and you do not need to show them this.

@Watapalava

Yes think most people still call is track and trace to be honest!

Yes its clear schools do not identify contacts - its T&T job so noone should be asked to take any test as its not the schools job to say if someone is a contact or not. They are seriously over stepping.

Totally agree. They are overstepping. Breaking the rules. They're disadvantaging vulnerable children.

Also the email is proof of nothing. If a parent chooses not to pcr a child (in line with official guidelines). They can pcr themselves and get a negative result.

@GabriellaMontez

But the school will (hopefully notice) the different Name & DOB!!

Childs name, someone else's nose.

I agree, it’s because people do lie. Or they do a lft and say it’s a pcr as it’s quicker, and they want their kids in school.

It’s probably more common that parents of primary children do this, as they need more looking after when they’re off school.

Dumplings

the OP is talking about cold symptoms which are not the same as covid symptoms

(i was responding to others who'd commented on contact isolation being the same - having to test etc)