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Teens ; need some perspective

25 replies

smoocakes6 · 29/11/2021 21:00

Hi
I'll try to keep it brief . Interested to hear from parents of boys and girls & teachers.

GCSE business glass. Female student sat between 'popular' male students and next to pestering male. She has experienced unwanted attention from said student. Students are asked to discuss topics with only the person next to them only. Awkward.

Female student stays after class to speak to the teacher (male) . She explains that she feels very uncomfortable sitting with this person, and could she pleased be moved? Teacher says 'No in business you have to learn how to deal with difficult people '

She's 15 . I'm so cross that the teacher dismissed her concerns. In a time where we are trying to change the way women are treated in the workplace, surely this should start at school .

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DrSbaitso · 29/11/2021 21:02

Escalate to head of department/year and make it clear how she was being pestered.

R0tational · 29/11/2021 21:04

She needed to say she was being pestered so the teacher could escalate, no? I would expect more than just changing seats. Poor girl.

Tal45 · 29/11/2021 21:06

No one in business should have to deal with being pestered or harassed. Did she explain why she was uncomfortable with him? I would take it higher.

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 29/11/2021 21:09

Escalate this, in business yes you do need to deal with "difficult people" however you can say no to and escalate behaviour such as what is coming from those boys.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 29/11/2021 21:11

Tell her to explain to him in business you go to your line manager with a problem, if they refuse to help deal with it you escalate with their manager or go to HR

changeyourname11111 · 29/11/2021 21:17

Definitely escalate it, all the way to the head if necessary. The Business teacher sounds the opposite of perceptive.

I have a 15 year old dd and feel sorry yours has had to put up with this pestering Angry, and also has a teacher who seems at best to be a bit dim.

Teatoast00 · 29/11/2021 21:21

Agree with all of the above, at the end of the day its school and not a business. Take it higher up.

Italiangreyhound · 29/11/2021 21:22

Agree, escalate. So sorry.

Bessica1970 · 29/11/2021 21:24

Depends what the pestering was.

Sexual pestering - absolutely should have been escalated (did daughter make it clear it was sex based?)

Pestering to let him copy her homework - different story.

WhenSepEnds · 29/11/2021 21:25

@smoocakes6

Hi I'll try to keep it brief . Interested to hear from parents of boys and girls & teachers.

GCSE business glass. Female student sat between 'popular' male students and next to pestering male. She has experienced unwanted attention from said student. Students are asked to discuss topics with only the person next to them only. Awkward.

Female student stays after class to speak to the teacher (male) . She explains that she feels very uncomfortable sitting with this person, and could she pleased be moved? Teacher says 'No in business you have to learn how to deal with difficult people '

She's 15 . I'm so cross that the teacher dismissed her concerns. In a time where we are trying to change the way women are treated in the workplace, surely this should start at school .

She should be difficult by kicking them in the balls and then saying it's only business. Way to teach women they are second class citizens
rrhuth · 29/11/2021 21:25

I would just complain to someone senior about this.

She is not fucking well in business, she is in school.

The teacher has been a twat here. The student tried to raise it, the teacher ignored - as a parent I wopuld now step in and say 'I want the boy moved'.

Mosschopz · 29/11/2021 21:26

Teacher 🙋‍♀️
With the increased emphasis on peer-on-peer abuse in government guidance and interest from ofsted this shouldn’t be ignored by him. Maybe she caught him at a busy moment but it should be raised with the head of dept/year.

Thursdaymiami · 29/11/2021 21:53

If I was sat next to someone who was pestering me at work they would be on a fucking disciplinary at the very least

Dixiechickonhols · 29/11/2021 21:59

Assuming pestering and unwanted attention means lewd or sexual comments then she should escalate further. There should be a sexual harassment policy. I’d have thought head of year first port of call.
Yes you need to get along with colleagues but no one should have to deal with sexual harassment at work.

steppemum · 29/11/2021 22:03

I love the idea of saying - in business I would raise a complaint of sexual harrassment against him and report him to HR.
So as you are the equivalent to my line manager, I am reporting him, now and wish to make a formal complaint.

Mum0509 · 29/11/2021 22:07

They ask all the time to sit with friends. Maybe her reason wasn't clear enough. I would drop him an email and explain. If he still says no, escalate.

Hercisback · 29/11/2021 22:12

She definitely needs to be moved away from these boys.

However as a teacher if students ask to move, the answer is usually no unless there's a very good reason. Depending on how she asked, I may have said no. I suggest you phone/email the teacher and find out what was said, and advocate for your daughter and explain further. If the teacher doesn't agree, then is the time to escalate.

I can see a teacher hearing "please can I move" and not realising why your dd needs to move.

HelplesslyHoping · 29/11/2021 22:31

As everyone has said, escalate. In work she would never be expected to sit next to a client or colleague who acts as he does. Don't let her think men are allowed to treat her like that. She was brave to speak up, and the teacher was an idiot to say what he did.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/11/2021 22:44

What a twat. Yes you do need to learn to deal with difficult people in business. What you don't need to do is put up with being sexually harassed.
If you sexually harass someone at work you will get a formal warning at best and be sacked and unemployable if you work in an industry where rumours spread at worst, if you work for a decent company. And if you don't and you have to put up with it or leave you can then sue for constructive dismissal.

Kite22 · 29/11/2021 22:48

@Hercisback

She definitely needs to be moved away from these boys.

However as a teacher if students ask to move, the answer is usually no unless there's a very good reason. Depending on how she asked, I may have said no. I suggest you phone/email the teacher and find out what was said, and advocate for your daughter and explain further. If the teacher doesn't agree, then is the time to escalate.

I can see a teacher hearing "please can I move" and not realising why your dd needs to move.

This ^
Queenyq · 29/11/2021 23:25

I'd wonder what a teacher knows about business. I've never met one that has ever stepped foot in an office, let alone made it a year.

smoocakes6 · 30/11/2021 07:26

Thank you so much for your input . I feel more fuelled for my conversation with this teacher, assuming he calls me back !

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rrhuth · 30/11/2021 07:49

@Queenyq

I'd wonder what a teacher knows about business. I've never met one that has ever stepped foot in an office, let alone made it a year.
You are a) sheltered and b) narrowminded.

Loads of teachers have had prior careers.

Maybe you need to get out of your bubble a bit.

HipTightOnions · 30/11/2021 09:13

I'd wonder what a teacher knows about business. I've never met one that has ever stepped foot in an office, let alone made it a year.

Then perhaps you haven't met many teachers. Loads of us have had previous careers.

Daphnise · 30/11/2021 11:25

You might need to know exactly what went on and what was said, before complaining.
Children can be misleading without meaning to be, and of course you weren't there to see the episode.

However she should be moved, of course, if uncomfortable, or feeling harassed.

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