Am I the only one who find this sort of wording odd...

[Cupcakeschocolate]

So I was looking up side effects about the copper coil I have just had fitting as it's been a week and I feel a bit cramps and slightly like I'm swollen inside. I came across this.... since when are men, penis havers....

And not just called men, I meant to add. I don't like how things have changed to being Penistone havers and uterus havers....

Penistone havers

Is that a village in South Yorkshire?

It's a ridiculous way to word things. It doesn't say if your partner can feel your IUD with his/their/its penis, so they're obscuring the meaning they're trying to convey.

Exactly, partner would be most suitable. Why are men now Penistone havers.... just say man or partner if you want to include a wide spectrum of people. I don't want to be a body part haver. I am a woman. I'm waiting for my go to start calling me a uterus haver or ovary haver or even egg haver. Might as well call us bloody hens.

Presumably if you have spent more than 3 minutes on MN you are aware that there are pages and pages and pages of chat devoted to this kind of terminology

Penis haver isn't a thing. Even my phone keeps correcting it to Penistone haver

Your phone is obsessed with Penistone. Does it have a guilty secret?

Well if women are described as cervix havers, or pregnant women are lumped into a category with other pregnant people (!) I don't see why men shouldn't be described as penis-havers.

True. But I don't understand it. If it was a person who had transitioned into a man, and therefore has a penis, would they want to be called a man too instead of penis haver?

It's so reductive & schoolboy crass to be reduced to genitals, whichever bit you have!

It’s like the ‘people that menstruate’ or some form of similar wording that was in the news lately - it’s getting in line with gender neutral terms etc (I think?!)

However I’m very much against being called a ‘person who menstruates’ - I’m a woman and my ‘penis having person’ in the house also would prefer to be know as a man

But what about a Trans woman who wants to be called a woman and thinks it's OK to have sex with a biological woman - without surgery they will still have a penis. So the wording is presumably designed to make them comfortable. The reasoning seems to be that it's just too bad if it makes the advice utterly ridiculous for biological women who are affected.

Except that a man with a penis can now call himself a woman.

I did a little bit of research in a local Facebook group and women are apparently now period havers, vagina havers and menstruators.

Quite refreshing to see men reduced to their genitals too. Shall we start calling them ejaculators?

@Peregrina
But if said woman, still has a penis, then she is still biologically male. Therefore the correct term is man or male.
Yes she wants to be called and known as a woman.... but male anatomy and science still relate to her because she indeed is biologically male.....

Either way, they could of just used the word partner with no remarks to gender.

Gender ideology aside, I just don't think it reads right or makes sense. Having a penis isn't a doing word. You just have one. Also penis having sounds more like the act of sex than being a man. All very odd. I think this kind of terminology alienates a lot of people, not least because a lot of people can't work out what it all actually means.

But at least this helps to highlight the nonsense that breaking our necks to accommodate the Trans Women are Women brigade have got us into.

This trans shit annoys me. There is an advert on my local radio encouraging those with cervixes to get a smear test. It sends me into a rage every time I hear it. I just shout biological women, you mean biological women at the radio every time.

We have provided many different identities for others yet gender doesn't seem to be a thing any more... seems to be we need a label any more because male and female isn't good enough. I also don't like the term 'CIS' I told my husband about this, he's from the med and he just laughed and said it's all ridiculous.