Early Christmas decorations = working class

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I know Mumsnet loves a class debate, so thought I’d share an argument I had with a friend last night.

She insists that only working class people put their Christmas decorations up in November, I insisted she’s a snob and class is more redundant these days so it’s a ridiculous argument.

So Vipers, I’ll ask the question as if it is coming from me to make it easier:

AIBU to think only working class people put their Christmas decorations up in November?

Yabu - No, don’t be such a snob, middle class people do too.

YANBU - Yes, it’s a working class thing.

I will be showing her the results of this.

Still putting people into classes in 2021. Really?

@MapleMay11

Yes aren’t immigrants stupid for not having all the class markers down pat!

Working class, ours go up Christmas eve

[quote TatianaBis]@MapleMay11

Yes aren’t immigrants stupid for not having all the class markers down pat![/quote]
I was referring to the use of the word 'mischief'. Why have you brought immigrants into this?

@ballroompink but why is it tacky, specifically.

@BonnesVacances you don’t have a reason. That’s why you can’t tell me it. And yes you really shouldn’t care so much. Honestly it’s much nicer living a life where you put up and take down your decorations whenever you want and when you see decorations you think oh look decorations not judging those people and casting aspersions on them. You should try it.

I feel very sorry for all those in this thread who aren’t capable of independent thought to put their tree up when they want or take it down whenever they want for fear of being tacky And who judge others by the same sad pathetic rule they invented or mummy told them about. How pathetic!

@RaRaReba

I have asked why it is tacky (generally meaning gaudy, vulgar, tasteless, or trashy) rather than just cheaper as some people can’t afford expensive baubles, but the poster has declined to explain. Cheap stuff in general is tacky. Unsustainable, cheap materials and low quality, produced by slave labour in a Chinese sweatshop. It’s not just cheap - buying it is a bad thing to do. Especially if you’re sending perfectly serviceable decorations to landfill and buying a full new matching set. Excessive consumption is tacky. MC tend to think of other concerns such as sustainability and lasting quality, not just price.

Very posh people, on the other hand, often don’t even own any decorations. My ex-boss used to pay a company who would deliver a fully decorated tree then take the whole lot away after Christmas. He had multiple houses so it wasn’t realistic for him to decorate a tree for every house. He wanted to turn up at his London house for a Christmas shopping trip and have a tree already there. Then go to his country house for the big day and have a tree there too. Then fly to his Swiss chalet for New Year and have a tree there. I once asked him what would be under his Christmas tree that wouldn’t be under mine? He said the keys to a Bentley.

Yeah a Russian oligarch's wife who lives locally does this. Prime example of how it's possible to be super rich and unredeemable common. I'm interested in that case as to how you define 'posh'. Because this is the opposite of my perceived definition.

Christmas decorations should go up on Christmas Eve and down on 6th January. Because that is actually Christmas. Much earlier than that and I will will judge you.
I will also judge you if you take your decorations down on Boxing day - Christmas has only just started then!

@terfinginthevoid

Christmas decorations should go up on Christmas Eve and down on 6th January. Because that is actually Christmas. Much earlier than that and I will will judge you. I will also judge you if you take your decorations down on Boxing day - Christmas has only just started then!

Judge how exactly? What are you judging?

@lawnotorder

It’s like wearing a sweater with a massive designer logo on the front.

They sell lots of these in Harrods & Selfridges 😱

You mean like this?

There probably is some truth in it - doesn't make it a bad thing though.

I however must have been super posh growing up, ours didn't go up until Christmas Eve

That assumption is bloody ridiculous. I'd say it's much more likely that those who like Christmas decorations are more likely to decorate earlier than those who don't.

@Livelovebehappy

What about wreaths on doors? I tend to see the ‘posher’ homes with wreaths on their front doors, but the less posher ones don’t.

Maybe that is where the bows come in.

Well I would call the Christmas police on anyone who puts up Christmas decorations before December 14th.

@terfinginthevoid

Christmas decorations should go up on Christmas Eve and down on 6th January. Because that is actually Christmas. Much earlier than that and I will will judge you. I will also judge you if you take your decorations down on Boxing day - Christmas has only just started then!

Oh no! I was going to put mine up on the 4th December but now I know that a stuck up random online will judge me I shall wait until the 24th.

@terfinginthevoid

Christmas decorations should go up on Christmas Eve and down on 6th January. Because that is actually Christmas. Much earlier than that and I will will judge you. I will also judge you if you take your decorations down on Boxing day - Christmas has only just started then!

Well, I'm judging you for being a knob.

Your religious Christmas may start then. Most of us don't celebrate it because of some nutter born in a barn thousands of years ago.

As someone who celebrates it just because it's a fun tradition, the 25th is the beginning of the end. Work is right around the corner again and it's a full year until Christmas and we have more than a week off at once. I wouldn't take the tree down on the 26th, but I find it massively depressing when it's just a reminder a new year is about to start with all the stress that comes with it.

We also couldn't possibly decorate on the 24th. Christmas eve is for celebrating, not stressing around.

If I put up decorations in November, I would be sick to death of them before Christmas. And when you take them all down the room looks like you have been burgled.

@terfinginthevoid

Christmas decorations should go up on Christmas Eve and down on 6th January. Because that is actually Christmas. Much earlier than that and I will will judge you. I will also judge you if you take your decorations down on Boxing day - Christmas has only just started then!

You - you’ll judge me? Oh please don’t! Please don’t judge me! I promise I won’t take my tree down on Boxing Day!

Mainly because I’ll be all full of after eights and leftover sandwiches and I can’t be doing with the loft when I’m bloated.

@LoisWooookersonsLastNerve

It's hilarious people sneer at Home Bargains as tacky when John Lewis are selling a dinosaur Christmas bauble that has an actual bum hole. Those quirky middle classes eh?

John Lewis decorations used to be different and leading the fashion. They followed the crazy Paperchase decorations. Who I think followed the designer ones.

I remember two years ago being wowed by a neon tree in JL and it being fab. But doing it for the third year in a row, it kind of loses its impact.

I can get the same stuff cheaper elsewhere now.

Christmas goats and goldfish, tractors and kayaks aren't unique to the highend stores anymore. We've gone from traditional gold, silver, red and green to neon pink and electric blue everywhere. That was what JL did well. Nothing is 'original and quirky' in 2021!

I definitely have no problem mixing B&M and JL and I doubt anyone would have a clue. Its all about how you decorate not where you get it from.

Btw, if you can afford £20 for a bauble, you don't spend it at JL.... (Can anyone guess what I've asked DH for, for Christmas?! I didn't want anything else.)

Also hint for next year Christmas Commercial Buyers: I have been looking everywhere for floral baubles, particularly in pink and have struggled. Its surprised me, given the Santas Grottos at Garden Centres. I would like to do a decent 'garden theme' tree cos I love my gardening. Poinsettia and clip on roses are SHIT whereever you try and buy them from! Make this next year's trend!!!! I'm bored of neon and nordic.

In 2017 the queen put hers up on 23rd November (I just googled).
Make of that what you will.

I would absolutely agree with your friend

It's also the same when England are in the Euros or World Cup. You don't see flags and banners draped across the front of houses in nice areas

Another thing you don't see is dirty old bedsheets zip tied to roundabouts wishing Stacey a happy eighteenth birthday

The nicer the area the classier the people

Don't get me started on people leaving furniture and washing machines in their front gardens

What about wreaths on doors?

My wreath is a annual gift from my MIL, it's big & real & even has oranges on it. I must be mega posh!

Working class families seem to have are of all
trees more than middle class families. you can put artificial trees up early but it's hard to buy a real tree let alone one that will keep its needles

Nothing is 'original and quirky' in 2021!

This is true for everything now, interiors, clothes, all just a version of.

@traka

I would absolutely agree with your friend

It's also the same when England are in the Euros or World Cup. You don't see flags and banners draped across the front of houses in nice areas

Another thing you don't see is dirty old bedsheets zip tied to roundabouts wishing Stacey a happy eighteenth birthday

The nicer the area the classier the people

Don't get me started on people leaving furniture and washing machines in their front gardens

Fucking hell. Don't hold back on that judgement

@Howmanysleepsnow

In 2017 the queen put hers up on 23rd November (I just googled). Make of that what you will.

Don’t you mean they went up at the palace, you know the one where you’re are sixty odd quid a head? She doesn’t actually do the decorations herself. And in buck palace etc their is a tourist element,