Do you believe in psychics?

[EwwwwDavid]

I've been to a few psychics over the years and some things they've said have been weirdly accurate, some not so much.
I had a very tragic bereavement about 12 years ago and haven't seen one since but done things I was told almost predicted what would happen.
Does anyone have any similar stories?
Ps im very much atheist and not at all 'woo' but sometimes reflect on things that are weirdly accurate.

@Pumperthepumper
You have really got a bee in your bonnet about my one isolated incident haven’t you?

Yeah, it could have been a guess, of course. Weird guess to make based on nothing though. But not impossible.

What about the other points I made? The fact that most people have come across hundreds of potentially ‘weird’ incidents? Or is mine the only example of anything previously unexplained (now explained by yours truly, of course) you’ve ever heard?

I think it’s sad to approach life in such a blinkered way. I’m off now though because you’re right - it does get tiresome after a time.

What if a psychic approached someone out of the blue, not in a psychic/client situation but because they worked in the same building as someone and were being "pestered" by a deceased relative of that colleague until they passed on some messages?

That happened to my exH's family. The colleague of the psychic was not a direct relative of the deceased person but their son in law so didn't know whether a lot of the fine details of what was being said to him was true until he told his wife about it.

No money was exchanged, this was not solicited in anyway and there was absolutely nothing to be proved or gained.

It was before the days of social media and the psychic in question turned out to be John Edwards.

I didn't believe in any of that stuff but even I had to be a bit impressed by that.

[quote Carrotsandbroccoli]@Pumperthepumper
You have really got a bee in your bonnet about my one isolated incident haven’t you?

Yeah, it could have been a guess, of course. Weird guess to make based on nothing though. But not impossible.

What about the other points I made? The fact that most people have come across hundreds of potentially ‘weird’ incidents? Or is mine the only example of anything previously unexplained (now explained by yours truly, of course) you’ve ever heard?

I think it’s sad to approach life in such a blinkered way. I’m off now though because you’re right - it does get tiresome after a time.[/quote]
I’m responding to your one, incident because that’s the one you wanted to talk about, that’s why you put it on this thread.

And it wasn’t a guess based on nothing, as we’ve discussed. It was a guess based on your age and any other factor - slightly pale, slightly green, not eating, walking differently, eyes slightly hooded, cheeks slightly flushed. Anything. And it’s only significant because she was right.

I think it’s sad to live so blinkered by a desire to believe in paranormal activity that you can’t see when you’ve been scammed.

There is some northern lass (dark curly hair in case anyone has seen her) she does live videos and people share them- it gives them points for free readings- anyway she is watching all these comments going “alright Sharon, ow r u lovely see if we can get someone for you, hello Tony me love……..blah blah”. She can just click as they are coming in onto their profiles, until one gives something away, then bam. I never know if I should feel deeply sorry for these vulnerable people often desperate or angry at their stupidity! These people are all vultures. It’s funny how not one person who has this ‘gift’ is willing to do it for free. Or that spirits are more interested in telling Mary that her slipper is behind the fridge than letting us who who killed x y z child or where some little kids body is buried.

You think the RV Tournament app is proof of psychic ability? Okay, so then is the ‘genie’ from Akinator. He can always guess what character you’re thinking of.

@JollyHostess

What if a psychic approached someone out of the blue, not in a psychic/client situation but because they worked in the same building as someone and were being "pestered" by a deceased relative of that colleague until they passed on some messages?

That happened to my exH's family. The colleague of the psychic was not a direct relative of the deceased person but their son in law so didn't know whether a lot of the fine details of what was being said to him was true until he told his wife about it.

No money was exchanged, this was not solicited in anyway and there was absolutely nothing to be proved or gained.

It was before the days of social media and the psychic in question turned out to be John Edwards.

I didn't believe in any of that stuff but even I had to be a bit impressed by that.

I don’t understand this story but my guess is: he lucked out on some information about a dead person, realised he worked with their colleague and used it to give himself some credibility as a psychic.

@Kanaloa

You think the RV Tournament app is proof of psychic ability? Okay, so then is the ‘genie’ from Akinator. He can always guess what character you’re thinking of.

I think you're misunderstanding, or you haven't given it a go yet.

With RV tournament, YOU are the one that is "psychic". You are the one that perceives an image, before it is revealed to you.

@Kanaloa

You think the RV Tournament app is proof of psychic ability? Okay, so then is the ‘genie’ from Akinator. He can always guess what character you’re thinking of.

That genie is definitely psychic! He always knows who I'm thinking of, even when it's someone like Freddie from Rod, Jane and Freddie 😆

@sybillalle I've gone on rv tournament and I'm waiting until 9.30 when the image is revealed to see if I'm psychic.

So you see, the experience occurs inside your own consciousness, and as such, can only ever be personal to you. I understand that this sounds strange. It is very strange!

Or if you prefer an instant reveal there are many online targets - for example : www.greaterreality.com/rv/instruct.htm

@sybillalle

I understand perfectly. As remote viewing has never been proven as psychic under properly controlled conditions it’s just another little novelty.

If you enjoy thinking you’re psychic then carry on, don’t let me get in your way.

The colleague of the psychic was not a direct relative of the deceased person but their son in law so didn't know whether a lot of the fine details of what was being said to him was true until he told his wife about it

But as PPs have explained, the process doesn't lie in what the "psychic" has said, but in what the listener does with it
So in this instance, the son in law may well have related some vague statement to his wife, the wife filled in the balnks and he then came to believe the "psychic" has actually told him all those things himself

Just as with the pal I mentioned upthread, who heard a statement which wasn't directed at her at all, and altered it to fit an "amazing psychic" narrative

And why would you presume I had misunderstood? I was simply saying it’s not proof of psychic ability.

[quote Kanaloa]@sybillalle

I understand perfectly. As remote viewing has never been proven as psychic under properly controlled conditions it’s just another little novelty.

If you enjoy thinking you’re psychic then carry on, don’t let me get in your way.[/quote]
The beautiful thing for logical and enquiring minds is that this is a phenomenon where you can carry out your own experiment, so you don't need to take anyone else's data. I understand why you don't think it's possible, as that was my position too, until I had evidence to the contrary.😃

It's apparently nothing special and anyone can do it, even those who don't believe that they can.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

The colleague of the psychic was not a direct relative of the deceased person but their son in law so didn't know whether a lot of the fine details of what was being said to him was true until he told his wife about it

But as PPs have explained, the process doesn't lie in what the "psychic" has said, but in what the listener does with it
So in this instance, the son in law may well have related some vague statement to his wife, the wife filled in the balnks and he then came to believe the "psychic" has actually told him all those things himself

Just as with the pal I mentioned upthread, who heard a statement which wasn't directed at her at all, and altered it to fit an "amazing psychic" narrative

They definitely weren't vague details, they were very specific indeed. Stuff from the wife's childhood about a family pet, in jokes and things that truly no one else would have known. The dead relative was a larger than life character who absolutely would have been the type to badger someone until they did what he asked. John was apparently very apologetic and kept saying this guy just won't leave me alone.

I can see from reading other posts on here how you could interpret John's actions as fishing around to start making a name for himself. I suppose it's possible? But this was a very convincing, detailed and unsolicited event so....🤷🏻‍♀️

@JollyHostess but other people must have known those stories if they recognised the dead person from those descriptions. And if they were a larger than life character, isn’t it possible that they shared a lot about their life with people when they were alive?

And if John Edwards was trying to build a name for himself as an incredible psychic, isn’t this just exactly the sort of thing he would exploit?

@Kanaloa

And why would you presume I had misunderstood? I was simply saying it’s not proof of psychic ability.

I hadn't heard of that other app you mentioned but from how you described it it seemed like the app was "reading your mind" rather than the other way around.

In any case, the app is not necessary, it's just an easy starting place with instructions. You can use other targets on the web, or team up with a friend if you prefer.

@Kanaloa

And why would you presume I had misunderstood? I was simply saying it’s not proof of psychic ability.

The app itself is not proof of anything. It's simply a tool you can use to collect your own evidence, for yourself.

[quote Pumperthepumper]**@JollyHostess* but other people must* have known those stories if they recognised the dead person from those descriptions. And if they were a larger than life character, isn’t it possible that they shared a lot about their life with people when they were alive?

And if John Edwards was trying to build a name for himself as an incredible psychic, isn’t this just exactly the sort of thing he would exploit?[/quote]
Maybe? He hadn't just died though, it was a good 20 years previously at least.

So two people working in a hospital, don't know each other. One approaches the other with stories/messages from the other guy's dead father in law who he'd never even met. Lots of details such as something that had to be done to the family dog on the kitchen table (I know).

I can see it either way to be honest. I get what you're saying and it is completely logical. But that doesn't necessarily mean you're right.

@JollyHostess ok, let’s look at it from the paranormal side then.

This man dies. Twenty years later, his ghost pesters John Edwards to the point of madness because he works with the dead man’s son in law.

The message he’s absolutely desperate to pass on is: information about his childhood pets.

Why?

Nope. No a chance. Complete BS in my opinion.

I'm the woman in the random village with the spooky local.

It was a very unsettling experience and has bothered me for years.

For a long time afterwards I considered going back there and trying to find the woman and ask how she knew this stuff/get more details, but I realised it wouldn't do me any good.

Some of it I've been able to rationalise: I must have looked awful, I'd just been devastated by the most awful, shocking loss. An empathic person could have realised I'd had a traumatic experience, some PPs have described having similar abilities, all non woo.

What seemed very woo was the specific detail she gave about my siblings death, the unusual cause and exact part of the body affected. Also some other vague stuff that I didn't understand.

I'm more than happy for anybody to debunk/explain it! I'd be happier with a logical explanation.

[quote Pumperthepumper]@JollyHostess ok, let’s look at it from the paranormal side then.

This man dies. Twenty years later, his ghost pesters John Edwards to the point of madness because he works with the dead man’s son in law.

The message he’s absolutely desperate to pass on is: information about his childhood pets.

Why?[/quote]

Have you read Hilary Mantel’s Beyond Black, @Pumperthepumper? It’s brilliant, though incredibly dark, about a medium who does shows and ‘psychic fairs’ in outer London, and comes up with wonderfully plausible fictional explanations for why the dead who speak through her are so tiresomely obsessed with trivia — long-deceased childhood pets, lost brooches, bunions.

@Furzebush yes I have! It was years ago though, I should reread it