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AIBU about what my partner thinks on this matter

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throwaway2o21 · 15/11/2021 15:42

OK I firstly want to say I'm incredibly embarrassed having to resort to airing something so personal online to strangers but at this point I am at my wits end about this and I'm unsure if I'm being unreasonable as my partner suggests. There's much more to my relationship than people know. It is controlling so I've no idea if this is another form of control or manipulation or if he really completely in the right. So I've had to resort to this.

When I was 16 my step father groped my breast one night. It has only happened on this one occasion. I remember the night very well. My mum and step dad were having few drinks with our next door neighbours, he came back into the house at some point to get something and I called him upstairs. There was a conversation about our family dog as the dog was going berserk that night. As I was standing looking out my bedroom window my step dad approached me from the back and put his arms round me, he was saying things about how proud he is of his family, and about me and his relationship which I'll give you some insight into shortly. But when he had his arms round me one of his hands was on my breast for about 2-3 seconds. I immediately felt uncomfortable. But honestly in that moment I don't even think he realised it. But I did and questioned it alot of while.. Told myself if anything like that happened again I would inform my mum. But it didn't. I never brought it up to him as I was embarrassed plus I just felt uncomfortable bringing it up and also because I was so unsure if it was an accident or not. He was bladdered that night, no excuse I know and I'm not making excuses but it was something that happened so quickly that I wondered had I imagined it, along with the fact I never ever had that happen again and I'm 36 now!

My step dad came along when I was about 3. He has been my dad ever since. He's always been so good to me and despite having 2 kids of his own with my mum I was never treated any differently. This man has been there for me through thick and thin whilst my real dad never wanted to know, still doesn't! He has been a great dad. I've never went without and I know he always has my and my brother & sisters backs. He's a good man! I consider him my father hate using the term step dad as he has reared me my entire life!

So fast forward now.. Ive been with my partner 18 years and we now have kids together.
My partner unfortunately suffered sexual abuse from a family friend for a number of years. It affected him a lot. He used alcohol as a coping mechanism. After quite a few years together I became fed up with the crap I had to deal with when he was drunk. He would fight with people all the time, get arrested etc. He would go out drinking all day then come home and trash our home and belittle me. Honestly I was so berated at times with his behaviour and his words. So one night after hours of drinking he arrived home and the usual happened where he would destroy our home. I specifically remember he was punching holes in our wall when I screamed at him that his behaviour was unacceptable and that he csnt keep using drink to fix his issues. Then I used the expression I've had something similar happen which he then wanted to know all about. I told him. I also explained how i let it go as I was unsure if my dad meant to do what he did and the fact I never experienced it again.

But it was too late he already made assumptions about it. He ended up walking out on me to drink again! I packed my bags that night and decided enough was enough and stayed with a friend.
Because of that I wasn't home when he returned and had switched my phone off. I woke up to find lots of missed calls and a voice message telling me if I didn't get home straight away he was going to inform my mum.... which he did do at 4am that morning. It obviously left her distraught.

Skipping forward again to now, this has obviously had an effect on my mum and dad's relationship. My dad swears he cant remember that night let alone putting his hand on me. I truly believe him. We all managed to move on until I had my boys who were born a year apart from each other. Had my first son and things were ok until I discovered I was pregnant again. 4 months into that pregnancy my partner told me I wasn't allowed to let my father round them unless he was in our company. This obviously put me in a shitty situation. These are the only grandchildren on my side. My mum and dad love my kids so much and they Brought so much joy into their lives. So to tell them this was gonna break them. After a while I did indeed have to tell them because I couldn't hide it anymore. It has had a devastating effect on my family. My boys are 3 &4 now and even they are asking me questions about why do we not see granny and granda without daddy being there. They ask to go and see my parents everyday and I have to make excuse to them.

my parents and siblings were all I had left after losing all my friends as my partner didn't like them. So they are all I have. I have begged and I mean begged my partner to change his mind as I'm struggling on my own and not being able to do simple things like visit my mum and dad for a cuppa or make memories with them and the kids.
He refuses to change his mind and speaks to me like I'm disgusting for wanting to put my children in danger.
I've even said that despite me trusting my dad the kids would never be on their own I will always be there with them and I'd never allow my dad to be on his own with them so he knew they were safe.
He still refuses. My family hate him, they see the suffering I am going through and I feel so lonely and isolated. It's hard for me to manage the kids our and about on my own so my mum and dad offer to help but because of the situation they know they can't otherwise my partner will kick off.

It has caused a lot of Fallings out with me and my boyfriend because I can never seem to put my side or feeling across to him about it all. I'm just dismissed and told if anyone else heard my story they would say he's completely in the right for not letting my kids see my dad without my boyfriend being there. Everytime we nearly split up over it all he's telling me he will inform social services etc and tell everyone what happened. I feel like I'm just being blackmailed all the time. I'm so lonely and have no one else yo discuss this with. I regularly have to hear about what a "bad man" my dad is snd he's a pedophile etc... Because there's so much arguments about it all my partner has told me it's disgusting that I refuse to take his side on it all and tell me I'm weird because I tell my dad I love him, hug him etc I feel like I'm going insane with everything my partner is telling me. He's telling me I'm deluded that I'm able to let this go and that I want him round my kids (again under my supervision) He just makes me feel like I'm a terrible human being. He won't listen to how this all makes me feel.

Is he right? Am I being unreasonable? I understand he has his issues due to his own trauma but he's putting so much of it onto me and the kids,I'm finding it hard to cope. I've been suicidal over all of this and I'm terrified of his black mail because I automatically know people will say he's right without knowing my version of events. I would never put my kids in danger

OP posts:
HelloKittySkittles · 15/11/2021 15:51

my parents and siblings were all I had left after losing all my friends as my partner didn't like them

And now he is trying to totally alienate you from family.
I think you should ask MN to move this from AIBU to relationships. Flowers

EKGEMS · 15/11/2021 15:59

Why in the world are you still with a man who has a history of being an abusive and controlling drunk? Don't you realize this relationship dynamic is going to affect your children going forward? Giving you restrictions and isolating you is controlling. I suggest Al-Anon and you to get your ducks in a row and get the hell away from him and get a lawyer

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2021 16:14

I think what happened that night when your step father accidentally touched you really was just him being clumsy, or not careful enough, when he put his armed round you.
You thought about it a lot and seem to have truly come to this conclusion too.

I think if he had meant more little accidents like this would have been repeated, built up over time, and escalated.

So, if truly nothing else happened, I do not think you are being unreasonable.

I think your partner has problems. Perhaps it helps him to use your step father as a catalyst for all his unhappiness. It also gives him an excuse to drink.

littleburn · 15/11/2021 16:22

Why are you still with your partner OP? Reading this as an outsider he is abusive and controlling. He's isolated you from your friends and he's controlling the relationship between you and your parents. I think the incident with your dad - in this context - is a red herring. The problem is your partner.

Ponoka7 · 15/11/2021 16:22

It's another form of control and a tactic to isolate you further, so he can work on you enough that he completely destroy you. This is affecting how you parent as well as you as a parent. It's emotionally damaging to your children. You need to make plans to leave.

Darkstar4855 · 15/11/2021 16:22

Your partner is toxic and controlling. Isolating you from your friends and family is a massive red flag for coercive control. Please have a look at the Freedom Program or similar and think about whether you would be better leaving. Alcoholism has a huge impact on child development and mental health, your children deserve better than this.

Ponoka7 · 15/11/2021 16:24

You need to also ask yourself why you stayed in an abusive relationship pre children.

TheFuckingDogs · 15/11/2021 16:24

Yes I also think your step dad really did make an innocent mistake as nothing else ever happened, no escalation of other little incidents etc

You obviously to try and find common ground with your abusive partner in a difficult moment told him this.
He is now using it against you to isolate you from the only people you have left. Hope things get better for you

HoseMeDownWithHolyWater · 15/11/2021 16:32

How does he stop you? Does he not ever go to work? Can't you go then?

LittleOwl153 · 15/11/2021 16:50

Take your children to see your parents without your partner. He cannot stop you. You are there to protect your children as you always are all the time. This is no different. Does he not trust you to take them anywhere else?

Yes it is another form of control and aimed at isolating you from your parents as he has succeeded with your friends. Try and get back in touch with some of your friends too - or get out there and make some new ones!

Waxonwaxoff0 · 15/11/2021 17:01

You are in an abusive relationship and you need to make plans to leave this man. Your relationship is toxic and it is modelling terrible behaviour to your children.

TheNicePerkins · 15/11/2021 17:22

He is abusive, and is using this anecdote as a neat excuse to alienate you from your family, after managing to alienate you from your friends. This is very sinister, and you should really be careful about starting the process of leaving him. Do not let his sad backstory make you stay with him, as it will only escalate and trap you in a web of fear, guilt and pity.

Nellesbelles · 15/11/2021 17:25

It sounds like you voicing what happened with your stepdad has triggered something in your partner where he wants to fiercely protect his children. I don't agree with him and he is being over the top but I can understand his behaviour with the trauma he has gone through himself. It sounds like he needs to learn to really listen to you rather than merely hearing from his own perspective. His other behaviour relating to controlling your friends etc is absolutely unacceptable. Have you considered couples therapy? I think your OH would also benefit from some mental health support such as therapy independently too to help him get over his past trauma otherwise this does often manifest in the angry and abusive behaviour you have described. It isn't fair on your children or your parents for their lives to be dictated by your partner and I feel you need to try to take control of the situation and make it clear to your partner he is being unreasonable. If this is something you find difficult to do then couples therapy or mediation would help you with this. If he is unwilling to try this then I would question whether it's in your best interests to stay in the relationship.

Pumpkinsonparade · 15/11/2021 17:31

In fairness to your dp he is pulling out all the stops to protect his dc. As irrational as it is.. He is probably wishing someone had done that for him.

Would he consider therapy? And seeking AA help for hwj drinking?
He really can't stop you taking the dc to see your dps.

scatterolight · 15/11/2021 17:39

This is a really sad read. Your poor step dad. The way you've described it it does sound like the original incident was just a clumsy hug. Your partner has blown it out of all proportion in order to compensate for his own shitty drunken behaviour and cast you as the bad guy. And it sounds like, what started as a disagreement, has now turned into abuse and controlling behaviour. Reading your post made me shudder. No wonder you feel suicidal. Get yourself away from him and be happy with your own family Flowers

LuluBlakey1 · 15/11/2021 17:40

He sounds absolutely awful and I have no idea how you live with him. He is damaging your life and making you children, your family and you unhappy.
Let him tell social services, or the police. They would take no action- the only person who thinks something terrible happened is your husband and he was not there. He is aggressive, controlling and destructive.
Leave - you will be much happier.

RestingPandaFace · 15/11/2021 17:57

There’s a lot to unpack, but a few things that jump out.

It sounds like your partner is being controlling and toxic, and whether this is rooted in his experiences or whether that’s a convenient excuse don’t really matter he can’t control your life and your children’s lives to this extent. It’s particularly worrying that he’s got rid of your friends and now he’s alienating you from family too.

How do you think he will react if you just ignore him and take your kids to see family anyway?

His blackmail threats are empty social services and the courts won’t be interested, as you yourself are happy that it was an accident with no intent to abuse you, and you’ve undertaken not to leave your Dad alone with the kids anyway, and if he goes down the route of telling all and sundry you just deny it and say he’s massively projecting.

You should leave him, whether that’s temporary until he gets treatment or permanently is up to you.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/11/2021 18:00

This is completely abusive of you and your family. Cutting you off from people who are important to you.

Ultimately the only person who knows whether the breast grope was intentional is your step dad. Like others I believe that if he was a paedophile he would have escalated the physical contact... He would not have stopped with a one off brief grope.

But ultimately only he knows.

Please ring the NSPCC for advice. They should be able to advise you without you giving any name.

I'm pretty sure nothing much would happen with SSD if your OH reports... They'd investigate - and the fact there was a solitary one - off 'assault' of you, nothing would happen.

I'm sure this is getting all tangled in his head with the grim abuse he suffered and consequent alcohol abuse. He's acting like the adult je would have liked to rescue him when he was an abused child?

EdgeOfTheSky · 15/11/2021 18:15

So, a man who has made your life hell , is controlling, destructive, drunk, has no regard or respect for you v a man who brought you up and is keen to continue as a lovjng supportive step dad, who once made a clumsy mistake for a few moments while drunk.

Dddccc · 15/11/2021 18:22

Hmm he was abused and during a kick off you said you had been though similar however you told him and he wants to protect his kids sorry but I was abused and if my partner said they had been groped by a step parent I would do the same however you think it was a accident and if you really thought that why would you have brought it up in the first place, your dp needs access to councilling asap he is on a slippy slope

Lilolily · 15/11/2021 18:37

You are absolutely not being unreasonable. He was completely out of order to tell anyone information that you trusted him with. Please leave this man immediately and build your life again with your boys and family.

rwalker · 15/11/2021 18:50

from your description I think your SD accidentally touched you and didn't realise .
Doesn't sound like anything intentional .

Zanina · 15/11/2021 23:32

So it's OK for him to get drunk and destroy the house but it's not OK for them to see their grandad who made a slight error. He is full of shit trying to protect his kids. He is trying to isolate all of you. Are you worried about him telling authorities about this incident if you split? I really don't think they will do anything

Bogeyes · 16/11/2021 02:36

Your partner is ruining your life. Please make plans to escape

madisonbridges · 16/11/2021 04:00

What are you doing, op? Read what you've written as if your daughter had written it. Would you say to her: suck it up, or leave him? Why are you allowing your sons to learn that this is how you treat women? Your husband has very sad issues but he's now inflicting them on you, your children and your family and you are facilitating him by going along with it. The abuse he suffered is now being perpetuated in a different form against you and your sons and he is doing nothing to sort himself out so I don't see it stopping, indeed it's more likely to escalate as he struggles to control his (and therefore your) life more and more. If you want to take your children to your parents, do it. His choice should be that either you visit your parents or you'll move in with them. Don't let him blackmail you over your dad. He's done nothing wrong and no enforcement body is going to be interested. Your poor dad, mum and children.