Dominic Cummings has succeeded - hasn't he?

[Sian73]

My understanding was that Cummings wanted to send everything into chaos.

A line came into my head the other day - it was from a program that was on a few years ago, "Years and Years", it was called. That program was dystopian and gave a chilling prediction of the future (one that looks really tame now in comparison to reality).

The line I remembered was "Do you remember when News used to be boring".

That's what I keep hearing myself say all the time now.

Now it's never boring. It's not stopped since Brexit. It's saturated every day with drama.

This is what Dominic Cummings wanted, wasn't it?

There’s always been drama in every government, forever. This is nothing new.

Now it's never boring. It's not stopped since Brexit. It's saturated every day with drama.

I don't think we can attribute covid, climate change and Tory sleaze all to Cummings

Brexit maybe (but ultimately that's on Cameron).

Don't encourage his delusions of grandeur

He's not as important/successful/intelligent as he wishes. He just managed to find idiots to listen to him and believe his shite. He's a wanky little twat with a complex and needs a hobby/to enter the real world. (I fully believe the Barnard castle shite was just because his wife was sick and he couldn't cope with something as beneath him as caring for his own child so needed another woman lined up so he could 'philosophise' alone with himself). Years and years is amazing and scary in equal parts though!

News has never been boring and it's always felt a bit like the world is on its way out.

I still kinda get what you're saying, though.

Keep voting. Keep loving the people close to you. Keep fighting.

Now it's never boring. It's not stopped since Brexit. It's saturated every day with drama.

But it's not like drama can't become boring. I'm actually pretty bored already because there's nothing really new or interesting to attract my attention on a daily basis. Plenty of shit-stirring and misreporting to keep us 'entertained', but if you actually think twice about it, it's not interesting at all.

I don't think he succeeded at all. He thought he could resign and then get his revenge but it turns out no one seems to care about all the shenanigans that went on when he made his revelations.

I think it’s more the invention of rolling news and the “breaking news” culture we have. It gives a chaotic impression so it’s hard to keep “news” in perspective. There’s always been loads, we just didn’t know about it. I think the 60’s and 70’s were pretty turbulent in the U.K. and most of world. More than now possibly. An American president was shot dead which is pretty dramatic when you think about it. Our mp’s seemed worse behaved too then. Lots of sex scandals which we don’t seem to get that much anymore or maybe they are less interesting and more acceptable culturally or maybe they just don’t happen as much. I don’t know!

I really don’t think the issue is Cummings, it was Boris all along.

The only difference these days is that Boris has lost an amazing marionette operator who kept the magic going on his behalf or who kicked him into line when he was doing something particularly stupid.

The big sin of Cumming was to make so many people believe that Boris was actually suited for the job.

Nah, Cummings isn’t responsible for this, although I’m sure the nasty little fuckbag would love to take the credit for it all because he’s a revolting self important toad. The Tories as a whole definitely are responsible for a lot of it though and have made much of the last few years in particular much, much worse than they would have otherwise be.

Years and Years was amazing, and prophetic, show. I wished more people had watched it.

there’s definitely chaos now - just not sure who’s responsible

@sashagabadon

I think it’s more the invention of rolling news and the “breaking news” culture we have. It gives a chaotic impression so it’s hard to keep “news” in perspective. There’s always been loads, we just didn’t know about it. I think the 60’s and 70’s were pretty turbulent in the U.K. and most of world. More than now possibly. An American president was shot dead which is pretty dramatic when you think about it. Our mp’s seemed worse behaved too then. Lots of sex scandals which we don’t seem to get that much anymore or maybe they are less interesting and more acceptable culturally or maybe they just don’t happen as much. I don’t know!

There are definitely as many sex scandals now, it's just that no one is remotely surprised or interested anymore. Boris would have been unelectable in the 60s because of his marital history. Not so now.

Don't encourage his delusions of grandeur

You’re right. No one should do this.

All these replies are very interesting. Thank you.

I wonder if Cummings is working now and if he ever will be in a significant role again. Not sure why I want to know.

It just seems so odd that he was kicked out and as someone else said, tried to stir things up from the outside but has mostly been ignored.

Once upon a time he was said to have so much power - but nowadays he’s a nobody.

Does that fizzling out to nothing happen very often?

We’ve had so much on Brexit then Covid I can’t remember how the same hours was filled before

Sometimes I feel like the drama is manufactured now anyway as we need new news re Covid.

I wouldn’t put it down to Cummings though as much as he’d like to be that omnipresent

Were - not sure what I was writing half way through that

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