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To accept a higher offer this far in?

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Girlmum89 · 08/11/2021 22:17

There’s a bit of a back story to this so here goes..

We’ve been trying to buy a new house since April and it has been the most stressful fucking time of our lives. We sold our house off the market, at a time when houses were selling for way over asking price in our area. We did this because we found an amazing home and needed to have accepted an offer on our house before making an offer on others, and this house was having viewings in a couple of days time so we felt cornered in to accepting this offer. We didn’t get the house - we were outbid by cash buyers and we were stuck with having accepted an offer for under what we knew we could achieve.

We then went on to offer on a further 3 houses and were outbid by cash buyers each time. Our buyer’s buyer (the first time buyer in the chain) was getting very impatient with this and was threatening to pull out if we didn’t hurry up. In hindsight we should have told her to fuck off and found a new buyer, but we didn’t. We offered £20k over on another house and was finally successful. Woohoo! (This house was our dream house - loads bigger than we ever thought we could afford and we totally fell in love).

This was July and we all had a deadline of the end of September to exchange and complete. Us because of the stamp duty holiday, the first time buyer because she was being evicted from her rental at that time, and our seller because she had paid a deposit to move in to a rental at the end of September. Fine. We were ready to exchange in August, as were the first time buyer and our seller. Who knows what our buyer was actually doing (or our estate agents for that matter) but come September our buyer hadn’t even paid her solicitors to start their searches and had only just sent in her enquiries (about 100 ridiculous fucking questions). Bearing in mind the rest of us all needed to exchange in September and we were all ready for it.

She continued to drag her heels until we threatened to find a new buyer. She finally instructed her -really fucking shit- solicitors to start their searches in the second week of September. Then, days before we were due to exchange, our seller began to get cold feet - she didn’t want to have to pay her mortgage and rent, understandably, so pulled out of the sale. Absolutely fucking devastated.

3 weeks after this our buyers searches were returned, and we now need to pay £1000s more in stamp duty.

So the search continued. We expanded our search to other areas and found an even better house, a bit further out. It was a new build and we had an appointment to see the show home and the foundations. We LOVED it!! This was a Monday - we negotiated a discount and were advised to call back on the Thursday because the offices were closed Tuesday and Wednesday and to spend this time checking with our chain they would be happy to wait until next Spring to complete. (We checked with our buyer and her buyer and they were absolutely fine with this). On Wednesday we got a call from another sales lady at the office saying she had just reserved the plot to someone else. At this point I literally cried. We were told the offices were closed which is why we didn’t reserve it. They weren’t closed and they had reserved the plot to someone else. Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!

A couple of weeks later, we finally thought our luck was beginning to change: a neighbouring plot became available (for an extra £10k). We snapped it up. We did it!! Finally completed this fucking chain and everyone will be happy.

Ecstatically, we called the estate agent. Literally singing that we did it. The next day we heard the first time buyer had pulled out.

Fuck my fucking life.

So we panicked. Our buyer put her house on the market. We put our house on the market. We said if she found a buyer first then amazing, we will cancel our viewings. Well, she did find a buyer and she accepted the offer but our estate agent didn’t cancel our viewings and they went ahead anyway. We’ve just found out that we’ve had an offer for £20k over what our buyer has offered. We know our buyer can’t go up anymore.

That £20k will go so far. It’ll recoup the extra we’re now having to pay in stamp duty, the extra £10k of missing out on the first plot, and have some left over. I know our house is worth this improved offer but I can’t help but feel so incredibly guilty for pulling our house away from our buyer. A stranger who we don’t know; all we know is that she has offered under value and dragged her heels when we had an important deadline. We also know that she loves our home and has been waiting months for it.

So here’s my AIBU. AIBU to accept this higher offer?

My head says take it but my heart says I can’t do that to our buyer. I think I’m secretly hoping that you’ll all say YANBU and I can go ahead and pull out guilt free, but this is MN after all…

Sorry that was so long!!

OP posts:
madisonbridges · 08/11/2021 23:14

I don't believe in this dog eats dog world. I actually think that deals should be honoured. But in this case, her lackadaisical behaviour contributed to the collapse of the chain and she took her house off the market. You're starting again at point zero. So no, you don't owe her anything.

Ellie56 · 08/11/2021 23:15

Why are you even considering this when she has messed you about and cost you money?

Take the higher offer and tell her why.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 08/11/2021 23:17

How many mortgage payments is that?

Lysianthus · 08/11/2021 23:22

Hell yeah!

jackstini · 08/11/2021 23:22

Usually I would say that would be unfair and wrong

However, with the backstory I'm amazed you haven't told her where to go sooner

If she asked you for £20k as a favour, what would you say?
Exactly!!

Hope you are in your new house soon

Lysianthus · 08/11/2021 23:23

Sorry pressed go too soon......Take the higher offer.

RavingAnnie · 08/11/2021 23:27

I would take the higher offer too purely on the basis that if she hadn't dragged her heels causing the Sept deadline to be missed then you'd all be moved by now and you wouldn't have lost your house.

Hankunamatata · 08/11/2021 23:27

When she didn't instruct her solicitor I would have binned her off so yanbu

TractorAndHeadphones · 08/11/2021 23:28

YANBU. If she hadn’t messed you around the house would have been hers by now.
Normally I honour a deal but only when I’m dealing with equally honest people

MadeForThis · 08/11/2021 23:31

Take the higher offer. It's her fault you haven't already completed.

loveacupoftea18 · 08/11/2021 23:31

Take the money. I have learnt through our recent sale and then onward purchase that the people who get far, are the people that only look out for themselves.

You're thinking about this very kindly but fuck it, £20000 is a lot of money.

billy1966 · 08/11/2021 23:32

@jackstini

Usually I would say that would be unfair and wrong

However, with the backstory I'm amazed you haven't told her where to go sooner

If she asked you for £20k as a favour, what would you say?
Exactly!!

Hope you are in your new house soon

This.

Don't give it a second thought, or do....how long would it take you to earn £20k net?

This is a very big purchase.
Do it with a business head on you.
Flowers

Puddstalk · 08/11/2021 23:47

Take the higher offer - we moved last year and had a very similar situation - I wish we had taken the higher offer as our new house needed a lot more work than we originally planned and that 12k would have been useful.

HikingforScenery · 08/11/2021 23:48

You seem to have come to a point where things are falling into place now. Would you be ok with this new buyer messing you about for months too? That’s a possibility. I suppose if that risk is worth the £20k, then go for it?

Sorrynotsorry2 · 08/11/2021 23:54

Yanbu ... go for it, with bells on.

Autumnleaves4 · 09/11/2021 00:02

Don’t be crazy, house prices are going up all the time, you can’t sell at one price agreed months ago and buy at the new price and she cost you loads in extra stamp duty. How will you feel if you turn the new buyers down and then she pulls out.

But make sure new buyers are sound.

BritinDelco · 09/11/2021 00:04

If I understand the backstop right your buyer lost her buyer by moving too slowly, broke the chain and opened up the chance someone would outbid her! Definitely Yanbu

Divebar2021 · 09/11/2021 00:30

Well I don’t think you’re wrong to accept the higher offer under the circumstances but I don’t think you are fair either in expecting any buyer to wait til spring for your house to be built. ( March / April???) Certainly the FT buyer who’s sitting there causing no delay to anyone. To have got the deal done I would completed on my sale and move into rented accommodation. As an aside sometimes things are not what they seem… I bought a flat from a lady who was apparently causing a delay - eventually I spoke to her directly and everything I had been told was a crock of shit. She was being told crap by the EA about me too. once we started speaking directly things moved a lot faster. Good luck I hope it goes a lot smoother from now on.

FreedomFaith · 09/11/2021 07:35

@Girlmum89

I thought I was going to get flamed for this! I’ve read the stories myself of sellers pulling out last minute for higher offers and I always feel so bad for the buyer. I think that’s what’s going on here - I’m feeling guilty for the buyer but she isn’t an innocent buyer! She has cost me money, time, stress, anxiety and a home! Maybe that’s a bit dramatic, but also true.

My husband just said she wouldn’t think twice if the shoe was on the other foot and I think he’s right. Also... it’s twenty fucking grand!!

She wouldn't think twice at all. She'd take it and run off. You've got the measure of her already, she doesn't mind you guys losing out as long as she doesn't. Sod her. She can either go up to 21k+ or she can start searching again. If she hadn't screwed you around earlier in the year when she didn't even need to, she could have had her new house by now. She caused this. Don't feel any guilt about it.
Whereismumhiding3 · 09/11/2021 07:49

@HTH1

Just do it. She has deliberately messed you around for months and cost you money and you were clear that the house was going back on the market.
This ^^
Valeriane · 09/11/2021 08:00

Its greedy and unkind but it seems like in the UK thats normal when it comes to property.

I would feel guilty as you say but you will do it anyway. It seems like in the UK when it comes to houses everybody hates on "the system" without realising that they are the system. Just my view from the outside looking in.

SleighBells21 · 09/11/2021 08:04

@surreygirl1987

You're asking if I would give up £20k for a stranger. No I wouldn't.
Exactly this
FreedomFaith · 09/11/2021 08:09

@Valeriane

Its greedy and unkind but it seems like in the UK thats normal when it comes to property.

I would feel guilty as you say but you will do it anyway. It seems like in the UK when it comes to houses everybody hates on "the system" without realising that they are the system. Just my view from the outside looking in.

You would give up 20k for a stranger? Send me a cheque please. Grin
sjxoxo · 09/11/2021 08:18

If you think new buyer is a safer option and less likely to let you down I would go with it. It’s not fair but that’s the nature of the situation & you’ve been really messed around! You could always say we’ve had a higher offer that we are considering- if you can match or increase by 15k we will refuse it but if not we will consider.. I think that’s fair x

ImUninsultable · 09/11/2021 08:25

I'd say do it and I'm usually like "that was shit of the seller" when they pull out last minute. But you're only in this position because your buyer took so bloody long to instruct her solicitors. You lost a house you had wanted, you've lost the stamp duty holiday and you're paying more for the house you've chosen now.

Fuck her. Take the higher offer.