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AIBU to say that in practice sexting a person legally means consent to sex?

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ScrollingLeaves · 08/11/2021 22:05

To see why I am saying this watch Channel 4:Rape - Who’s on Trial which is on now

A woman flirted with a man in a pub.
Willingly went to toilets with him. Text messages has passed between them.
He shoved her against the wall and violently shoved fingers in her while kissing her.
He left because he heard someone coming in.
Watching CCTV it looked as though she was telling the truth ( police woman thought so).
Alleged victim very upset.

Then they found she’d sent a bra photo and a topless photo to him.
Police man said something like “you have to ask what sort of message was that giving”

Case dropped.

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Speakingmymind · 13/11/2021 19:47

Missing out something shameful does not of itself mean someone is not telling the truth.

No, it does not however it does call into question their credibility as a witness if the case goes to court. The prosecution will have used it to show the victim was not completely truthful in their initial disclosure. This then could be used to cast a shadow of a doubt on her recount of what happened in the toilet.

SnackSizeRaisin · 13/11/2021 19:50

man will rape because he wants to not because of what we say, wear, drink, show photo, walk a certain way, be somewhere dark and alone

That's only true of stranger rape. In this case it's highly unlikely that this particular incident would have happened if she hadn't gone into the toilet with him. That doesn't make it in any way her fault. But it was avoidable. Sending naked photos to a stranger is just not sensible. Nor is going into a private place with a man you don't know in this context. We can blame men all we like but they are not going to change any time soon.

CheeseMmmm · 13/11/2021 20:52

Given the man's actions. I'd put money on. If she had avoided it. He'd have attacked someone else. Maybe that night. Maybe another night.

And that's the problem with the protect yourself focus. Yes it helps you. But it does nothing to reduce the actual problem.

OhWhyNot · 13/11/2021 21:29

SnackSizeRaisin

That’s only true is stranger rape

What are you talking about. Have you not heard of all the excuses that men make

This was a heated discussion in 1988 when the file The Accused came out

Fucking tragic we are still having people make the same excuses and yes they are placing blame of them the women that a women would not have been raped if she didn’t xy or z

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