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AIBU to remind people about donating blood?

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MLMshouldbeillegal · 06/11/2021 10:14

Gave blood this week at a community session near my house. The nurse who chatted to me as my blood was being taken was saying how much the pandemic has impacted them - no walk ins, everyone has to make an appointment, if people don't/can't turn up after booking that's a slot lost, numbers are down because people are avoiding being around other people.

So if you can - and I know not everyone can - please consider signing up as a donor or going back to being a donor if you did in the past and haven't been in a while.

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thepastisanothercountry · 08/11/2021 13:57

@MLMshouldbeillegal I did check on the website. It said I had to be 3 years clear of seizures AND the associated medication. Was quite cross about it really miss the tea and biscuits!! but what can I do?

If anyone else wants to check if they can or can't give blood you can search eligibility criteria here

MilduraS · 08/11/2021 14:38

@MLMshouldbeillegal I just had a good giggle at the thought of you turning up for cervical screening and the nurses wondering how to tell you that you don't have a cervix.

Agree that there's a lot of disconnect in the NHS that could be avoided but that requires time, money and someone with the foresight to think about the impact of changes before they implement them. I work somewhere a fraction of the size (1500 employees) and we still can't communicate effectively. Ironically it's a university with one of the best management courses in the world Blush

XenoBitch · 08/11/2021 14:48

[quote thepastisanothercountry]@MLMshouldbeillegal I did check on the website. It said I had to be 3 years clear of seizures AND the associated medication. Was quite cross about it really miss the tea and biscuits!! but what can I do?

If anyone else wants to check if they can or can't give blood you can search eligibility criteria here[/quote]
Thanks for the link.

I knew I could not donate (based on word by mouth stuff) so good to see something on their website about my reasons. My sister has always nagged me, called me selfish etc for not donating. At least I can show her that site now.

DahliaMacNamara · 08/11/2021 15:41

I'm eligible for my Covid booster around the time of my next appointment, and delayed the booster by a couple of days because you have to have 7 clear days between the jab and the donation, ie donate on the 8th day, subject to side effects. DH thinks I should have skipped the donation and got the booster at the earliest available opportunity. Was I being silly? Donor sessions locally aren't that frequent, and it's a fair drive to a city donor centre in a location I wouldn't normally visit.

NoSquirrels · 08/11/2021 16:05

I’d have done that too Dahlia.

melj1213 · 08/11/2021 16:43

I would love to donate again - I donated a lot when I was younger - but they make it so difficult where I am and after my last experience I am in no rush to make an effort to book again.

There's a regular blood donation clinic in one of he function rooms at the local theatre that is round te corner from my flat. They no longer take walk in appointments(this happened long before covid), appointments are between 9-6pm (only bookable about 3/4 months in advance and almost impossible to get) and even with an appointment things never run on time so you can be there for 90mins/an hour, that's as long as they don't cancel your appointment at the last minute.

At my last donation, last year, I managed to get a 9am appointment on a day when I didn't start work until 11.30am, I have to leave for work at 11.10 at the latest so I figured that just over two hours was more than enough time to make the donation, head home get changed and get to work without being rushed.

I turned up at 8.55 for my appointment to find the blood donation van clearly having just pulled up as staff were all carrying the equipment into the venue and there was more on the van than inside. None of them seemed to be in any kind of hurry, stopping for chit chats between bringing stuff inside and the staff inside were setting up the room but nobody had any kind of urgency. At 9.05 i asked when we would be seen and was sharply told that they would be ready soon and I just had to be patient. By 9.20 there was now a few of us waiting in the main foyer of the building as we weren't allowed into the donation room until they were set up but nobody had given any kind of update. I asked again how much longer we would have to wait and was told "Shouldn't be long now" before they walked off.

At 9.30 a woman finally came out and said they were ready so everyone started to get up, at which point the woman snapped that not everyone could come in at once and we would be allowed in a few at a time, but then when we went in we were directed to another bunch of seats to wait until they could sign us in individually and get the ball rolling. This took another half an hour as they faffed around getting the right papers/forms and setting up their desk, drifting around to find the right box with forms in etc before we even got to the haemoglobin test and donation. I finally finished my donation at 10.50am, at which point I need to rush to get home and get changed to leave for work as it had taken nearly 2 hours for the whole process.

During the whole process everyone was just very dismissive, nobody communicated anything - there was one woman who was making her first donation and she had no idea what the process was/where to go/what to do but nobody explained anything to her and she was just wandering around the room trying to find the right place she was meant to be and being told off if she was in the wrong place - and I was made to feel like an inconvenience. Even when the nurse came round to check on us during the donation, she was holding a conversation with another nurse and barely even made eye contact, never mind actually spoke to us.

I left feeling exceptionally unappreciated and annoyed at the lack of courtesy I received from pretty much anyone - I don't think I heard a single please or thank you from any of the staff to anyone. I work in customer services and if I had had the attitude most of the blood donation staff had when I was at work then I'd have been pulled in to the office and told to sort myself out. I'm not expecting a brass band and staff falling over themselves to thank me for being so selfless as to donate, but it would be nice to be appreciated rather than treated with indifference (at best).

I keep getting emails and texts asking me to go and donate again but whenever I try to book an appointment it's almost impossible, and I am really not inclined to go out of my way to make an effort to be treated so badly again any time soon.

MLMshouldbeillegal · 08/11/2021 17:33

That's really poor, @melj1213. When the vans/lorries come to our community centre they do two sessions, I think the first is about noon to 4pm and then another from 6pm to 9pm. There are no sessions in the morning as they are setting up. I have come across the odd rude person as there are in every profession but most people are lovely. The lady who I was looked after by last week was very funny and we had a long chat about holidays.

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DrRamsesEmerson · 08/11/2021 17:57

I think @melj13's experience is all too common, sadly. It certainly chimes with many of mine.

melj1213 · 08/11/2021 18:31

The problem seem to be that my poor experience is the standard experience of many people.

For a service that spends a lot of time asking people to donate, and telling people how important their donations are, they make it very difficult to actually do so, so people start to think that clearly they don't need the donations as much as they claim to, after all. Then, if they do manage to get an appointment, the treatment donors receive is often less than stellar, which puts many off making the effort again.

I would not be surprised, for example, if the woman I mentioned from my last donation was put off from making the effort to donate again after her terrible first impression.

TheOrigRights · 08/11/2021 19:50

Maybe the Donor people should be pointed to this thread.
It's honest.

User85858686 · 08/11/2021 20:08

I worked as a donor carer (taking the blood) for years. And I honestly cannot believe the stories about rude staff. Please, if staff are rude to you get their names and complain to NHSBT. If I was ever rude to a donor my job would have been at risk. On one occasion I had a very rude donor and they subsequently complained about me. My employers hauled me over hot coals as well they should have. (I was found to be without fault) We were very aware that if we didn't have blood donors we wouldn't have had a job. And customer service was at the heart of the job, after safety obviously.

MilduraS · 08/11/2021 20:15

I do find it sad that they have a marketing budget to drum up donations but haven't spent any time working on areas where people have such bad experiences.

I have to say that even during my previous bad experience where it took 2 hours or more to donate the staff were always lovely. It was just the time commitment that put me off. My experience this year has been so smooth that I hope the only change is to make donation times available.

I mentioned this thread to DH and he told me that pre-covid a blood donation van used to turn up at his work (a head office with 2,000 employees). The appointment slots were always gone within 10 minutes of being made available and it didn't come back again for 4 months by which point the same people were trying to get booked in. If they had come monthly or even more often, they could have easily filled every appointment with a more diverse group of donors.

DrRamsesEmerson · 08/11/2021 21:03

@TheOrigRights

Maybe the Donor people should be pointed to this thread. It's honest.
They couldn't care less. I have complained once or twice - I have no idea whether anything happened or not internally, but no-one ever got back to me.
DrRamsesEmerson · 08/11/2021 21:04

It's very sad, I've ploughed on with making donations for years and years now, because it's important and necessary. But on the whole the service treats me like something they've scraped off their shoe. (Once they weighed me in public because they thought I was too light to donate- I didn't complain, because I was young and stupid, but I should have done).

Oldraver · 08/11/2021 21:17

I tried booking a few weeks ago and despite being willing to travel couldn't find any slots for love nor money.

Had a phone call tonight as they are desperate for my blood group and they have magiced up an appointment tomorrow

Startrooper · 08/11/2021 21:24

I used to donate regularly but when we moved to our current area appointments have been very difficult to get, even pre-Covid.

Also, the last two times I have donated the assistant has asked me if I was pregnant as soon as I sat down with my donor form still in my hand. I’m late 40’s and have got a bit fat but I was so embarrassed. Why bother completing this form if the assistants aren’t going to read it first - including the question if you are pregnant or not. So, it’s put me off bothering to try and get an appointment.

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 08/11/2021 21:34

It is so efficient now. I do have to travel further as they don't do sessions in the local church hall any more but it is so much better. When I was a child I would go with my mum and often wait for over an hour for her to donate. As soon as I was old enough I signed up and waited too. As a student I would queue for 2 hours at student sessions. Now I'm in and out within an hour. It is true that session spaces are tight, I book the next one as soon as I've donated as if I leave it then all the spaces will have gone. Thankfully while some types are always in more demand the reduced sessions also reflect the reduced need for blood as we are so much better at treatment these days and don't rely on blood products as much which is fantastic.

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 08/11/2021 21:41

I'm very impressed at how many donations some have made. I'm 38 years old and coming up to donation number 39. 2 years living abroad and associated time now allowed to give after return, 3 pregnancies and the postnatal period, a couple of year long anaemia bans and a couple of cancelled settings while going through testing as a potential bone marrow donor. Still going though!

EvilRingahBitch · 08/11/2021 21:46

I've got 45 donations, having missed several years due to pregnancies, anaemia, colds, cold sores, and a couple of gaps while waiting for my hypothyroid medication to get tweaked to a stable level. I'm very keen to make it to 50 before I get put on some sort of medication or develop high blood pressure like the rest of my family, or they decide that the CJD risk of Generation X is too high to let us donate.

Meadowland · 08/11/2021 21:49

I think it is unfair to generalise. I have given blood for 15 years and never once had an unfriendly staff member.
Yes, sometimes the wait is longer than others but they are all working as fast as they can and some donations do take longer than others. Can't be helped.

EvilRingahBitch · 08/11/2021 21:53

And yes in those 45 donations (plus a handful of failed donations) I've never met the kind of rude or unfriendly staff some people have mentioned. They've all been either lovely and chatty or neutral and professional. The worst I can say is that one rather bossy nurse got slightly firm with me and pressured me into not having the anaesthetic injection which I was convinced I needed. She was absolutely right and I've never had it since.

DrRamsesEmerson · 08/11/2021 21:55

Are the people who've had only good experiences with the staff white, by any chance?

AnUnlikelyCombination · 08/11/2021 23:45

I am white, yes. I give in a big donor centre in a very diverse area, and I haven’t seen any difference in how I’m treated to how the other (very diverse) donors are treated. It is a big open plan area, apart from the small rooms for questionnaires and iron tests, so it’s impossible not to overhear quite a lot. But maybe I wouldn’t notice subtle things?

WildNorthEast · 09/11/2021 06:55

Thank you for the reminder to start giving blood, I've just signed up, but the next available appointment isn't until March, which is disappointing.

ghostmouse · 09/11/2021 07:21

My son stopped donating before the pandemic when it became so difficult to book a simple appointment. Not flexible at all
Shame because he’s o neg

I can’t anyway. I had a blood transfusion 14 years ago

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