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AIBU to think that donating tinned tomatoes to the food bank shows a real lack of understanding of food poverty?

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/11/2021 08:53

The food bank donation box at my local supermarket this morning had a fairly good mix of items, apart from about a third of the tins were tinned tomatoes.

Surely it would be better all round to donate products which need little to no additional ingredients?

Tinned tomatoes are a base - they will never be a meal in their own right. They need at the bare minimum, some seasoning and or some veg or protein to make them useable.

And then even if you could rustle up some other ingredients to make them palateable/nutritious, you need to heat them - if they contain meat or lentils they need a good length of time on the heat.

Those using food banks likely cannot give over 20mins on the hob for tinned tomatoes. The cost of heating up the food (if there is even funds on the meter) is too high for the return.

I do think that people who donate tinned tomatoes, come at it from a reasonably comfortable point of view - just chuck it in with some mince and a bit if garlic and slow cook it for a couple of hours.

All of which is likely to be outside of the financial scope of the recipient.

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Silvercatowner · 01/11/2021 14:15

Making a massive pot of lentils or a veg curry and freezing is incredibly economical

Yes, if you have a freezer, cooking pots, stuff to freeze in, a cooker...

3luckystars · 01/11/2021 14:16

Butt out.

labazslovesliving · 01/11/2021 14:18

who in Gods name cooks tomatoes for 20 mins? why are they not a meal in themselves short of cash tomatoes on toast can be quite a nice light meal. can't imagine having a cupboard without tomatoes

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 01/11/2021 14:23

I just mean if you are putting lentils or veg in with them etc.

Lentils? We carry lentils, and other pulses. But we don't include them in a standard bag*, many clients look disgusted at them, would have little will to make a meal out of them. That and we have to have a bag we can put together for the majority of users. Tins of tomatoes are really popular, in vegan, veggie and meat eating families alike.

We put lots of the pulses on the Help Yourself. They rarely stay there long, but those families who wouldn't use won't get them as standard and they are a nice extra for those who will.

It's not about ability to cook, many people who are with us longer term are bloody amazing cooks, it's about providing staple foods that don't use a lot of fuel to heat up.

*That's for an omnivourous family, obviously vegan and veggie bags get lots tinned pulses

FluffyBooBoo · 01/11/2021 14:25

@labazslovesliving

who in Gods name cooks tomatoes for 20 mins? why are they not a meal in themselves short of cash tomatoes on toast can be quite a nice light meal. can't imagine having a cupboard without tomatoes
I do. It really enhances the flavour, and it also improves the nutrition.

I mean, I don't always. It depends on many factors. But when making a pasta sauce, they are definitely worth cooking for quite a long time. Assuming that its affordable for the person cooking.

PizzaCrust · 01/11/2021 14:26

You’re being awfully judgemental-

Firstly of those families who use food banks. The presumption that they’re too stupid/poor to heat up tinned tomatoes, really?

And then the presumption that those who spend their hard earned money on donations for food banks are also stupid for buying them in the first place?

Give me strength. It’s awfully gracious of anyone who donates to a food bank, regardless of what the item is, and for those who couldn’t make use of the tinned tomatoes, plenty of others can.

Get off your high horse.

dottiedodah · 01/11/2021 14:26

Cryalot2 So you no longer give to food banks where poor people may benefit ,after finding that "wealthy" older people who presumably volunteer there , may have a couple of tins given to them? How do you know they are wealthy? Many older people are grateful for a little help!

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/11/2021 14:28

Firstly of those families who use food banks. The presumption that they’re too stupid/poor to heat up tinned tomatoes, really?

I have no idea where you think I've inferred any stupidity.

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TheAntiGardener · 01/11/2021 14:30

@Silvercatowner

Making a massive pot of lentils or a veg curry and freezing is incredibly economical

Yes, if you have a freezer, cooking pots, stuff to freeze in, a cooker...

And many using a FB will. So they will be able to make economies and benefit. Which is great.

Why do people keep making this point? We know some people will not be able to freeze or cook on a hob. That doesn’t mean that nobody can.

Changingtides1234 · 01/11/2021 14:32

Sanitary products is one I think people forget a lot, not food I know but basic necessity. There are some really sad stories of the lengths some mums go to, to keep food on the table for their children.

dottiedodah · 01/11/2021 14:32

Goldenbear I think the problem with mince pies including brandy in them ,is that some of the people they help may be recovering Alcoholics .The team leader at SB said FB are unable to accept anything Alcoholic at all for this reason

me4real · 01/11/2021 14:33

YABU. Pasta and other carbs uually need something with them really to be much of a meal, but the food parcels give people a lot of stuff like that. It all helps and is better than someone donating nothing.

Qwertypi · 01/11/2021 14:36

I had my Dd when I was 17, and lived in a hostel for a while. I ate loads of tomatoes on toast! When Dd was a toddler she used to want them every day. They can be microwaved. Also really nice mixed in with baked beans 😬
She’s 22 now and still likes having a stash of tinned tomatoes in!

Mirlwi · 01/11/2021 14:42

AS WELL AS PONTIFICATING ON WHICH ITEMS YOU SHOULD BE DONATING TO FOOD BANKS -

WRITE TO YOUR MPs!! DEMAND CHANGE. THERE SHOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR FOOD BANKS!!

Like someone on another thread said, the benefits system is now so full of holes (by design) people frequently fall through it's not fit for purpose.

Sorry about the caps but this just drives me mad. Write to your MPs, get involved so that people don't have to use foodbanks in the first place. You could have written to your MPs in the time in takes to post about tinned tomatoes..

MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 01/11/2021 14:42

We'd probably statve ro death for lack of tinned tomatoes.

Chilli

Pasta sauce

Barbecue sauce for pulled pork.

Curry

Etc etc. I put them in everything.

I also make a point of putting large bags of basic spices and trays of Aldi Worcester sauce in the food bank trolley ...... Recently ours had a massive drive for unused and donated slow cookers which were pat tested and donated. This is the type of thing that can really help people.

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 01/11/2021 14:44

You're in for a shock, then, because "really crap highly processed food" is indeed unfortunately what they mainly provide.

Yep! For a number of reasons:

  • We have to cater for people who don't have a lot of money for heating or cooking
  • We provide a stopgap, not a long term solution
  • Most people we see are busy trying to find other things too: jobs, all the benefits they are entitled to, a safe place to live. Meals that are quick and easy are often much appreciated
  • the food bags are usually not the only source of food people will have. They are simply enough nutritionally

Perhaps naively, I also thought until recently that they would provide basics like bread, potatoes, milk, butter, cheese, fruit and vegetables alongside cupboard staples such as pasta and rice and snacks. But I found out when trying to donate apples to my local one recently that fresh food is not even accepted!

OK - fresh fruit bruises too easily. We have to split up bags and share them out. They bruise, go soft, mouldy and are less nutritionally valuable than other foods - in the short term

Instead of fresh apples, they wanted beans, tinned pies, tinned soups and packets and wouldn't accept fruit or vegetables. I feel really sorry for the people who normally eat fresh food but have to have this processed rubbish out of necessity when they are already having a hard time.

That's because you are looking at it from a position of 'enough' not from a position of having bugger all and needing something simple and easy to make cheaply.

And many foodbanks do have fresh fruit and veg. It depends entireely on the local need and support for the foodbank.

And what about children who need the vitamins for their development?

What? You think that the dieticians we work for haven't thought of that? Or that other agemncies aren't involved with many of our clients?

This article reveals a lot about the state of food banks in this country: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/lived-food-bank-parcel-week-2472784

That reporter missed/ musinderstood so much. Chatting / catching up over a cup of tea and biscuits? Also being engaged by various support workers avaialbel to signpost further support.

She also chose to eat ONLY what was in the food bags. ONLY!! Very few of our clients have absolutely no other food in the house. Those that do (maybe a woman who has fled to a refuge) would get more help, tailored to her specific situation - maybe more bags with fewer items over a week or two, more random items like condiments, etc. What she got, what she was told he had been given was a regular single person bag.

When I told my friends that I couldn't go out for tea, or mentioned to work colleagues that I was hungry, people felt sorry for me and offered me food, which I resisted.

I appreciated their concern, but I can imagine for people using a food bank that such comments could appear a bit patronising at times, and that pride could make people feel a little stung and not as worthy as others, just because they can't afford to eat.

Nope! Women at work who give most of their food to the kids when they gt back from school don't usually have that level of pride! They can't afford to eat. The reasons for this are many and varied. We spend a lot of time debunking the shame of this.. which that article just underlines, focusses on, ends on!

if homeless people were to use a food bank service, as many do, it made me think that they sadly may struggle to make many meals with packet and tinned food. Well, no shit Sherlock! And they'd get a completely different package and completely different support/signposting.

I luckily don't have any allergies or food intolerances and I'm not vegetarian, but using the food bank also made realise that it would have been even more difficult if I was unable to eat a particular kind of food, as the options I was given were already limited and I may have been restricted even more if this was the case, which may be a reality for others using the service.

And again! Who does she think run foodbanks? Total idiots? Tell us you have an allergy. Tell us you need vitamin supplementation etc (like many people with pernicious anemia these days).

More research was required. That article is shockingly uninformed and probably put a fair few people off donating or using the service!

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 01/11/2021 14:46

@Mirlwi

AS WELL AS PONTIFICATING ON WHICH ITEMS YOU SHOULD BE DONATING TO FOOD BANKS -

WRITE TO YOUR MPs!! DEMAND CHANGE. THERE SHOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR FOOD BANKS!!

Like someone on another thread said, the benefits system is now so full of holes (by design) people frequently fall through it's not fit for purpose.

Sorry about the caps but this just drives me mad. Write to your MPs, get involved so that people don't have to use foodbanks in the first place. You could have written to your MPs in the time in takes to post about tinned tomatoes..

And this! With as many knobs on as you can lay your hand on!

If you can put foodbanks out of business the world will thank you!

Pigeoninthehouse · 01/11/2021 14:48

@Missey85

They do it because tinned tomatoes are the cheapest you can buy and they can brag to all their friends about how good they are
You must have some shit friends.
sunglassesonthetable · 01/11/2021 14:55

This was such a stupid, judgemental OP to begin with.

maddy68 · 01/11/2021 14:55

Seriously? Tinned tomatoes are the dogs. Make. Soup, put them on toast , add then to meat. Literally makes a meal

Gribbit987 · 01/11/2021 14:59

I attach the current list from my foodbank. #1 required item? Tinned tomatoes.

AIBU to think that donating tinned tomatoes to the food bank shows a real lack of understanding of food poverty?
MrsGikes · 01/11/2021 15:01

I have a Jack Monroe's Tin Can Cook, which as the title suggests, gives recipes for using main tinned ingredients. There are plenty of recipes using tinned tomatoes including a delicious soup made with tinned toms and sardines (sounds disgusting but it was lovely)

ClaudiaWankleman · 01/11/2021 15:02

Yes, if you have a freezer, cooking pots, stuff to freeze in, a cooker..

Yes but @Silvercatowner there are a number of foodbank users who use them for a week a month, or less frequently. Either because they can't stretch their wage for the whole month, or their income has suddenly taken a dip, or their wage is unpredictable thanks to a 0 hours contract.

There are many people who use foodbanks who do and can cook, and plan and think for themselves. Foodbanks don't just provide for people will nothing, they increasingly fill the gap for people who have something, just not quite enough (i.e a freezer, but not £40 on top of the electric bill for food to fill it for a week).

DarlingFell · 01/11/2021 15:06

Well, you assume that everyone who uses food banks won't have the means to warm through tins of food, while many of those forced into using food banks might own a microwave and may have enough money to provide basic utilities, such as electricity, but they have found themselves in a position where they cannot afford to provide adequate food for their family.

Those with access to microwaves, electricity. etc can also be living in, what most would consider to be, poverty.

skodadoda · 01/11/2021 15:08

@sashh

Tinned tomatoes can be eaten cold.

They can be a side dish like any veg.

They can be put in a pan with a tin of some other vegetable to make a simple, if not very tasty meal.

They can be put in a pan and have pasta added to make another simple meal.

They can be broken up with a potato masher to make a soup either on their own or adding other ingredients.

They can be put on toast like beans.

They are suitable for vegetarians, vegans, people of various faiths.

YABU

And if people have a jar of herbs it can make a huge difference.
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