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to think Taylor Swift is our century's answer to William Shakespeare

511 replies

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 16:01

She's such an incredible storyteller and lyricist (and her songs are ridiculously catchy. It's all about the hooks.) Listening to her album 'folkore' this afternoon - she wrote two whole albums in lockdown, you know. And they're both great, but 'folklore' is insanely good. As she moves away from autobiographical writing into character stories, her storytelling is getting even more emotionally direct, and even more fun. She's a total genius. Even on the rare occasions when her hooks and melodies don't grip you, her lyrics always get right to the heart of things.

If there's any justice in the world, Ms Swift will still be celebrated in 500 years for her original, moving, funny, perceptive and subversive writing.

YANBU = Obviously! She is the Bard of Pop
YABU = WTF? She's way better than Shakespeare

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dementedma · 28/10/2021 21:09

God, I dont even know who Taylor Swift is!

LittleDandelionClock · 28/10/2021 21:10

@dementedma

God, I dont even know who Taylor Swift is!
A joke right? Have you been living in a cave on Mars for 15 years?
KrispyKale · 28/10/2021 21:14

It's because neither the tunes not the voice are memorable.🤷

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 21:14

@dementedma

God, I dont even know who Taylor Swift is!
Do you know who Shakespeare is? She's basically the same, but with blonder hair and not often seen in a ruff.
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KrispyKale · 28/10/2021 21:14

Nor the voice, sorry.

LittleDandelionClock · 28/10/2021 21:15

@beastlyslumber Grin

dementedma · 28/10/2021 21:15

No. I've heard the name but couldnt tell you who she is or what she does. Obviously a singer I now know. I feel enlightened

KrispyKale · 28/10/2021 21:15

Aren't ruffs back in?

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 21:16

@WhatAShilohPitt

Delighted to see other teachers getting full marks on the Swift / Bard quiz, but can I just vent to you about this?
Oh that's very unfortunate indeed. Bet they wouldn't make that kind of mistake with Taylor's back catalogue.
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Tonkerbea · 28/10/2021 21:17

Exile is one of my favourite songs of all time, she's an incredible storyteller. I don't let snobbery stop me enjoying great music.

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 21:18

@Jericha

I'm surprised Maggie o'Farrell omitted her from Hamnet frankly.
Hahaha! Brilliant Grin
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jcyclops · 28/10/2021 21:18

Post from 2321:
My DD is having trouble with her homework. Can anyone help? The question is:

Discuss how the lyrics of Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" reflected contemporary politics and cleverly foresaw the break-up of the UK in the early 21st century.

BurntO · 28/10/2021 21:20

She is amazing. But so many women are wrapped up in their internalised misogyny they’ll tell call you stupid for thinking so.

Whinge · 28/10/2021 21:20

@jcyclops

Post from 2321: My DD is having trouble with her homework. Can anyone help? The question is:

Discuss how the lyrics of Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" reflected contemporary politics and cleverly foresaw the break-up of the UK in the early 21st century.

Oh gosh I needed that laugh. Thank you, that was brilliant. 🤣
MyrrAgain · 28/10/2021 21:21

Ummm....?

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2021 21:23

Have you read Shakespeare?

I’m sure her songs are very good but really, I’d back off quietly now, were I you.

User527294627 · 28/10/2021 21:26

@MrsSkylerWhite

Have you read Shakespeare?

I’m sure her songs are very good but really, I’d back off quietly now, were I you.

OP has clearly read more Shakespeare than you have of this thread…
User527294627 · 28/10/2021 21:26

Do you know who Shakespeare is? She's basically the same, but with blonder hair and not often seen in a ruff.

OP can we be best friends?

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 21:27

Read the thread @MrsSkylerWhite! I got 100% on a Shakespeare/Swift quiz so I'd say I'm an expert.

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DaisyNGO · 28/10/2021 21:27

MrsSkyler - did you do the quiz? 😁

I have a lot to learn about musical phrasing
But I think maybe the reasons 1989 and Reputation are my favourites are linked to Jack Antonoff's work

beastlyslumber · 28/10/2021 21:28

@User527294627

Do you know who Shakespeare is? She's basically the same, but with blonder hair and not often seen in a ruff.

OP can we be best friends?

I feel like we already are Wink
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MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2021 21:29

Anything that relies on the results of a quiz …….

DaisyNGO · 28/10/2021 21:34

@MrsSkylerWhite

Anything that relies on the results of a quiz …….
It's called fun. There hasn't been much of it on MN lately.
CheesyChipsOnWembleyWay · 28/10/2021 21:35

I opened this thread only to say I love Taylor but Paul Heaton would be my pick, so I'm obviously delighted to see the second post get that mention in.

stillonthattightrope · 28/10/2021 21:36

@MrsSkylerWhite

Anything that relies on the results of a quiz …….
Hey, captain buzzkill. 😄

I did a quiz the other day about which season I am, I'm not going to hold them to the results.