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AMOH21 · 24/10/2021 23:09

So a few things really! Hopefully this post won’t be all over the place. I have a few points to make in regards to my marriage. I am just wondering if any of this is normal and maybe I’m making a big deal out of nothing…..I have been married for 9 years. We have 3 young children.
My husband is self employed taxi driver-he earns around 2400 a month. However this can be flexible just depends how much he works. I work full time too however currently on maternity leave and earn around 1100 at the minute prior to this I was earning 1800. Am I being unreasonable? Am I being unsupportive of him?

Finances:
I was paying for majority of direct debits Council tax, broadband/telephone line, energy bills, contributed to rent whenever asked, pay for food shopping, kids new clothes & shoes, kids school dinner, hobbies. FYI we don’t have to pay rent anymore as we have now bought the property. I have my own car that I pay for too. Have paid or contributed massively to holidays, spending money.
My main point about finances is that he never seems to have any spare money.
Whenever we go out whether it’s just us two or the kids I nearly always pay for whatever we’re doing.
Anytime any bills or costs come out of the blue he contacts me it’s never face to face mainly through text to say he can’t pay xyz and then I step up and pay. This has been going on for years. He never seems to have spare money. I have saved money myself. But I have been unable to save amounts I could have due to him not managing his finances very well. I rescue him each and every time. I have literally never asked him for money apart from once when I had enough and said you have never bought me anything I would like a nice coat I have seen and he bought it me after a long while. It would be pointless anyway as by the next month I would have had to pay for something for him therefore cancelling what money I had asked for anyway.
I have told him many times that he need to know what his ingoings and outgoings are and that it’s good to see visual of where money is going etc. I said to even write it out on something as simple as notes on phone. This is nothing new. Obviously I am aware as a taxi driver you won’t have guaranteed money but if you work had you can get very good pay. He has a man cave in the house. Has his Xbox, all the latest technology and even recently bought the latest Xbox all he it on a buy now pay later scheme which nonetheless needs to be paid eventually. Last year I said this has to change in regards to how much I contribute. Therefore I transferred majority of bills to him which were council tax, energy bills and water bills. Oh yes he has to pay £700 for using his taxi as he rents it and doesn’t own it, I know it’s a huge chunk of his earnings. If I don’t cook he automatically buys takeaway and it’s not even a joke how much he spend on takeaway. He chooses not to learn to cook. This impacts us financially. Tbh even if I do cook, later in day he gets cravings and buys takeaway or dessert.
The plan was what we used to pay in rent we would put in savings. However I have recently found out through letters being sent to our property that he hasn’t paid council tax, energy bills or what bills since I gave him that responsibility AT ALL. He told me the truth as he disclosed to me that he wanted to use the money we use to pay rent with to pay what he owes. This is literally a whole year of not paying the bills I thought he was happily paying. Therefore again instead of saving we are going backwards again! I never asked a penny off him as I thought he was paying all these bills and not to add stress onto him. I told him to set up a payment plan for each overdue bill and pay it that way however he had audacity to say to get the overdue payments over and done with quickly. He obviously knows if he works harder and more hours then he would be in a better place financially. I wouldn’t say he has the best work ethic. Here’s the weirdest part, he told me he has a bit of money saved that his mum has for him in her house but he hasn’t disclosed how much even after asking. She states this is for him to have some money saved as otherwise he would spend it. I have issues with his mum and we barely speak (long story). I recently saw a few text messages he exchanged with his dad on his phone. It was him asking his dad if it would be ok for him to ask for some of his money that his mum has for him. Thats how scared he is of his mum a whole grown man! I have flipped about this and said why isn’t that money in our savings or that I could have kept it for him. He said wanted to use it to pay these bills off to me. He never lets me look at his online banking and tbh I have never seen it. He says this is mainly because he’s ashamed he hasn’t got any money

Hobbies:
He has a million and one hobbies you name it basketball, football, badminton, gym, outings with his friends
He genuinely has many hobbies and says he has to have some sort of hobby to release any frustrations and for mental health. I don’t mind hobbies and don’t want to come across as obsessive however he has an excessive amount and of course each one is costly. The cost is my main point and the amount of time he spends away from the family.

Leaving without telling me:
He’s always said to me not to control him by asking him where’s he’s going and who with etc. He says that’s usually what his mum does or used to do and he feels I’m doing or used to do the same.
He has a bad habit of just leaving the house without telling me where he’s going. He might say bye. I have told him quite a few times can he at least text me or tell me where he’s going mainly for safety just in case anything happens. At the end of the day he’s a married man with kids.

I don’t know I am just bleurgh.

I do majority of childcare too. Do school runs, waking up for kids at night, cooking, cleaning, bathing kids, bedtime he does it here and there. Now I’m not bashing him with everything that needs doing daily for kids and food etc as he’s a taxi driver and can work random hours and shifts. However yes he doesn’t cook, hardly cleans. Trust me I have mentioned plenty of times how overwhelmed i am and that I need help! He might help for a day or two then goes back to his usual ways.

I become a miserable person to him and can be quite rude due to everything above. I try to bite my tongue most of the time and talk politely and seem supportive but it’s hard. I would describe him as kind, very caring towards me and the kids adore him.

Recently though what’s annoyed me the most is he was playing basketball and he happened to twist his ankle therefore damaging ligaments and he now can’t drive or walk as he is in pain. What does this mean? Loss of earnings as he is self employed. Who does shortfall land on? Me! He says isn’t we did me being supportive and saying ohh babe I’m so sorry for you being hurt and helping with his recovery I told him the truth and said ultimately your obsession with your hobbies has cussed this. You playing basketball has caused this. This means you won’t be able to work or even help with kids silly! I think I would be more supportive if this injury happened through work. Last year he broke two bones in his hands through basketball and he couldn’t work for a long while again affecting finances and family life. Am I being unreasonable? Or a horrible wife.

He promised me push presents, I still haven’t got an engagement ring, I have a wedding ring but wanted a engagement ring to go with it. These are all materialistic things and I am not a very materialistic person tbh but who doesn’t love a gift or two here and there!

I know I have rambled on. Seems all over the place but hope I have got my message across. I am no angel and can be short tempered and rude at times but I’m thinking it’s coming from all of this mainly.

Is any of this normal? Am I being horrible to him?

OP posts:
ScaredOfDinosaurs · 24/10/2021 23:17

This is not healthy. You need honesty and transparency about finances and he's stonewalling you on that. The money he earns gets pissed up the wall on non essential things and bills go unpaid.

That's before you get into the issues with him waltzing in and out of the house randomly whenever he likes, refusing to do his fair share of housework and childcare etc.

Truthfully, I don't see much future in this. Marriage is supposed to be a partnership and it doesn't sound like this is even close.

IsDaveThere · 24/10/2021 23:18

You don't have a few issues, you have one big one - your husband.

What are you getting from this marriage? I would have left him long ago.

BoastMostFulsomely · 24/10/2021 23:22

Did you buy the house without a mortgage? A cash purchase? Or are the mortgage payments why he doesn't have any money (as well as xbox and takeaways etc)?

Cryalot2 · 24/10/2021 23:25

What are you getting out of this relationship?

Your dh has been deceitful.
You have too much on your plate and he seems to be adding to it and not supporting you.
You seem to work and pay most of bills while he enjoys his hobbies . Not fair at all.

AMOH21 · 24/10/2021 23:28

It’s a flat. And we paid cash. Therefore we owe nothing and don’t pay a mortgage. We haven't had to pay a penny for this property in terms of rent for over a year now apart from usual insurance etc. Where we live properties aren't too crazy expensive.

OP posts:
mrsunicorn1807 · 24/10/2021 23:30

It sounds like you have 4 children tbh. He's clearly incapable of taking on any responsibility, and to not disclose finances at all to you after being married so long is very strange!!

PermanentTemporary · 24/10/2021 23:34

It sounds as if you have totally different ideas on how money should work in the marriage. Not unusual, except you both seem to be continuing as if the other person has agreed to your way of doing things, instead of agreeing it and having transparency.

Who paid for the flat? Whose name is it in, and how do you know?

user1473878824 · 24/10/2021 23:35

OP, rather than a sarcastic comment I really want you to think about the fact that the first thing I thought when I read this was “is this a joke? No one could possible really live like this, 1/10.”

Kick him out. He’s a complete waste of space.

RollWithThePunches · 24/10/2021 23:42

I don’t understand couples having separate finances. We’ve been married for 30 years and we have joint accounts for everything. I used to earn more than him pre-kids but we both agreed Id be the one to go part-time as I was more interested in childcare than career. Having separate accounts and being suspicious of expenditure is alien to me.

SweeneyToddler · 24/10/2021 23:42

@AMOH21

It’s a flat. And we paid cash. Therefore we owe nothing and don’t pay a mortgage. We haven't had to pay a penny for this property in terms of rent for over a year now apart from usual insurance etc. Where we live properties aren't too crazy expensive.
Did this money come from him or you?
Ballsdeep21 · 24/10/2021 23:44

Sweeneytoddler- it was 50-50 we both contributed equally.

Ballsdeep21 · 24/10/2021 23:48

PermanentTemporary- it’s in both our names I have the paperwork. We completed the whole purchase process together. We contributed 50-50.

Ballsdeep21 · 24/10/2021 23:49

FYI I have changed my username thought I’d mention to minimise confusion.

Ledition · 24/10/2021 23:53

This is an awful unbalanced relationship. I'm afraid you've been taken for a bit of a mug OP. Stop being so nice - he's getting you into debt. Reminds me of my father, he was a selfish arsehole too and luckily my mum eventually divorced him but not before draining all her money. I imagine if you have any sense you'll eventually get rid of this one.

He sounds like Jim Royale. I was surprised at the active hobbies as that's what I was envisioning with the takeaways and the man cave nonsense and the fact you do all the "women's work" and he just leaves the house at will like a single man when you've got DC.

Demand to see his online banking. He doesn't need to write down what he's spending when it's all there on his banking app. I assumed gambling habit initially - fits the profile you've described. Fucking loser lies to you all the time too, ugh raise your standards and get rid OP.

Iflyaway · 24/10/2021 23:55

kind, very caring towards me

Everything you have written in your OP says the complete opposite.

He sounds awful. Utterly selfish and a man-child.

And you sound amazing.

As for him living his own life, going out the house whenever he wants, how do you know he doesn't have another woman?

You deserve SO much better. And so do your kids not to have him as a role model.

PermanentTemporary · 24/10/2021 23:58

Right, so how did that happen? That's a major achievement to have bought a flat outright between you. I can understand him feeling that you're doing pretty well as a family.

You can't just say to your husband 'right these bills are yours now'. Likewise he can't just stop paying the bills for a year - you could have lost your home. You need to learn how to talk and negotiate together. I would say relationship therapy is urgently needed.

Ledition · 24/10/2021 23:59

I would say relationship therapy is urgently needed.

I would say don't waste

Ledition · 25/10/2021 00:00

Any more expense salvaging something that can't be fixed - he's not a keeper.

Technosaurus · 25/10/2021 00:07

A pair of people on below average take home buying a flat in cash? Smells like shite... Unless there's been a huge unmentioned cash injection (eg parents/inheritance, either of which changes the dynamic)

If it is all true, the guy's a twat and you need to wise up and pull his fucking weight. But something isn't adding up

Ballsdeep21 · 25/10/2021 00:14

Erm why is it not possible? We have been married 9 years, not like that’s a super short time. Like I stated previously we don’t live somewhere where properties are crazy expensive. It took us a good few years to get the money together but we did. No such thing as cash injection or money inheritance. We both worked very hard for 3 years before having kids and then saved the rest for years after kids came into picture and that obviously slowed being able to buy the property.

Technosaurus · 25/10/2021 00:19

Depends where you are in the world? In the UK the scenario you outline is unlikely at best... I live in one of the cheapest areas and the idea of buying in cash is still off the radar for anyone on those salaries.

Although that isn't really the point. The point is your husband is taking the fucking piss and you need to tell him to up his fucking game or fuck the fuck off

Ledition · 25/10/2021 00:33

If he never had money and you managed a cash buy - surely that's where the money was going? In to savings for the house? My husband build his house with cash but he was earning a couple of grand a week, working insane hours with one day off a fornight and it still took quite a few years. Although as a pp said it depends where you live I guess?

Ballsdeep21 · 25/10/2021 00:47

Ok. When it comes to being a taxi driver his wage varies. If he works his butt off it’s unlimited the amount he can earn. He can earn on a very good month around 3.5k if he puts the effort in not that he does that very often. On average I would say 2.4K as I wrote on original post. He was lucky that during covid he didn’t lose out as taxi industry was affected significantly. He luckily got another avenue through his taxi work and earnt up to 4K a month for 6 months last year however that amount was only short term.

user1473878824 · 25/10/2021 01:20

OP and name change fail OP, stop sticking up for a man who earns £600 more than you a month and pays for NOTHING.

1forAll74 · 25/10/2021 01:54

You have seemingly been putting up with this selfish behaviour for quite a long time now, not to mention your Husbands money issues. I doubt any more badgering from you,will make him magically change his ways.

I guess you will have to decide if you wan't to stick around with this kind of life style.or not.