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Would a teacher who is convicted of drink driving lose their job?

63 replies

icecreamandfrozenyogurt · 24/10/2021 17:52

If someone is convicted of drink driving and they are a teacher would they be sacked from their job?

This has nothing to do with me or anyone I know personally but I read not that long ago in the local press of a teacher who was convicted of killing someone through drink driving and they were obviously and quite rightly sacked from their job but I wondered if no one had died or was injured would they still lose their job?

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Yummypumpkin · 24/10/2021 17:54

Unlikely.

Fallagain · 24/10/2021 17:55

Very unlikely.

Namechangeforone · 24/10/2021 17:58

Hm I dunno. bringing the employer into disrepute? Against the code of conduct? I know a man who did lose their job but they nearly killed someone and went to jail

notanothertakeaway · 24/10/2021 17:58

What's your AIBU?

REDHERO · 24/10/2021 17:59

Someone convicted of killing someone due to drink driving, I'd hope they go to prison

ShanghaiDiva · 24/10/2021 18:01

Huge difference between killing someone as a drunk driver and being prosecuted for being over the limit.
Very unlikely to lose job imo.

Ursulapheebs · 24/10/2021 18:02

My dbil was a youth worker and he lost his job when convicted of drink driving. Don’t know the ins and outs but he did.

Haudyourwheesht · 24/10/2021 18:02

I doubt it. Unless a driving licence is required for their role.

MelKarnofskyCrane · 24/10/2021 18:02

I worked with a girl who was done for drink driving. She lost her job. “Bringing the firm into disrepute”

PotteringAlong · 24/10/2021 18:02

No. I’m a secondary teacher and I have worked with 2 people who have lost their driving license for drink driving. Neither were sacked.

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 24/10/2021 18:03

They certainly deserve to lose their job in my opinion but I suspect that the case would go to a tribunal and that they would be suspended from teaching for a while at the very least.

Skyla2005 · 24/10/2021 18:04

I think you would because your dbs check wouldn't be clear

PaperMonster · 24/10/2021 18:04

My colleague in FE lost her licence for drink driving (not before time) and kept her job.

PackedintheUK · 24/10/2021 18:04

It will be in their Discipline and Dismissal policy as a potential misconduct offence, but if everything else is good it's unlikely to be used. They might get a warning.

I worked for a large organisation previously where drink driving was a stackable offense, but in reality they only used it for people they wanted to get rid of.

PackedintheUK · 24/10/2021 18:05

@Skyla2005

I think you would because your dbs check wouldn't be clear
You don't need a clear DBS to work in school? you need one clear of offenses that make you a risk to children. Drink driving wouldn't "fail" the checks.
MrsPinkCock · 24/10/2021 18:08

Highly unlikely.

I know two lawyers who kept their jobs after losing their licences for drink driving and lawyers have to declare any convictions or CCJs and often face a disciplinary panel to determine whether to revoke their practicing certificates.

I don’t see that dismissal would be justified - legally it would not cause serious disrepute to an employer unless there were exceptional circumstances, but if driving was a mandatory requirement then that would be very different!

LuluJakey1 · 24/10/2021 18:09

Unlikely- I have a friend this happened to and he didn't. However, I know another teacher who applied for a job and did not declare a drink drive conviction when asked about the DBS and if it would be clean, and the job offer was withdrawn when the DBS came through - because of his dishonesty not the conviction.

Oblomov21 · 24/10/2021 18:11

I don't see why it should. If you can get to your place of work.

PackedintheUK · 24/10/2021 18:14

Yes. I've actually appointed a teacher with a drink driving conviction, declared in advance. It did turn out to be a mistake mind, because her drink problem was much wider than a one off drink drive incident.

cuttlefishgame · 24/10/2021 18:14

The two people I know of who have been convicted of causing death by dangerous driving (one was drunk, the other sober, and the offences were 40 years apart - I'm not in the habit of associating with such people) were both given a custodial sentence, and did lose their jobs. Neither were teachers.

Charliealphatangorara · 24/10/2021 18:18

I know of a teaching assistant this happened to. About 5 years ago. They didn't inform the school of their arrest which I believe is against the code of conduct and DBS regulations. The school found out from gossiping parents who had read it in the news.

HikingforScenery · 24/10/2021 18:20

Drunk driving surely goes against the teachers’ standards?

Anatomical · 24/10/2021 18:22

I know a headteacher who was convicted - kept their job. Their standing in the school went down massively which is completely understandable.

icelolly12 · 24/10/2021 18:27

It depends on the Headteacher. I know of a case where a teacher was convicted of drink driving and lost his licence but kept his job. His partner had to drive him into work and back. The case was in the local papers and a lot of it was sniggering and hohoho what a lad, he seemed to gain 'street cred' for it tbh.

CecilyP · 24/10/2021 18:27

*Drunk driving surely goes against the teachers’ standards?^

No it does not. The DBS check is to check that you do not have any offences against children so that you are safe (as far as can be ascertained) to work with them.

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