To think all UK jobs should be advertised in one place.

[tuffluv]

There are so many employment agencies, jobs boards and the like, I'm not surprised some people don't know where to start looking for a job. Out of interest, I just had a look at the Government's collection of 'resources to help jobseekers' (here: jobhelp.campaign.gov.uk/resources/). It's pretty pathetic. When I look for jobs for myself I use LinkedIn and subscribe to a couple of other jobs boards but always have a feeling I'm probably missing lots of suitable roles. Why can't the government just provide one big database where all employers can post job adverts for a nominal fee? So long as it had good filters it would make life so much easier.

Job adverts are almost universally shite and many are fakes - but considering how shit the government is at IT projects, it's a no from me , not that it would be remotely enforceable.

YABU. Monopoly of job adverts would be a very bad thing.

Plus the current government couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery unless it was all to line the pockets of their chums. So he’ll no. Keep it a free market.

Because you'll end up with illiterate warehouse workers applying for high level coding jobs simply because they have to make X number of applications per week thus wasting everybody's time. The advantage of there only being a nominal fee is far outweighed by the additional sifting that results.

I've seen this from having to check the recruitment records of a large number of employers wishing to sponsor immigrants.

@Lactarius

Because you'll end up with illiterate warehouse workers applying for high level coding jobs simply because they have to make X number of applications per week thus wasting everybody's time. The advantage of there only being a nominal fee is far outweighed by the additional sifting that results.

I've seen this from having to check the recruitment records of a large number of employers wishing to sponsor immigrants.

Whoa!

@Lactarius

Because you'll end up with illiterate warehouse workers applying for high level coding jobs simply because they have to make X number of applications per week thus wasting everybody's time. The advantage of there only being a nominal fee is far outweighed by the additional sifting that results.

I've seen this from having to check the recruitment records of a large number of employers wishing to sponsor immigrants.

Nice. I happen to work in that illiterate job area, and I've yet to meet a warehouse operative who couldnt read and write. In fact I can think of at least 5 of my team who are literate in at least 3 languages at this moment.

I know it's not the point you're making but LinkedIn is a terrible platform.

Linkedin, I've noticed lately, seems to be populated with virtue signalling or people trying to beat the algorithm with sensationalist clickbait type views. Trying to findo relevant jobs or worse, attract new hires on there is a minefield.

Exactly Geller Many posts along the lines of:

"I spent 5 months, 3 weeks and 2 days walking naked through the Sahara desert to find the true meaning of life and my friends let me tell you, it cannot be found at the 9:30am weekly team meeting on Tuesday."

@VladmirsPoutine 'we are doing so much for mental health/menopause awareness/LGBT colleagues/climate change/underprivileged yogurts ' while the FD poses with showy watch/handbag/car a 'self care/wellbeing retreat' conveniently forgetting their core team took no leave during lockdown- to keep the minimum wage staff in work-cough- and are all burnt out as no one cared they were taking calls or emails at 4am when the night shift were all isolating...

"underprivileged yoghurts"

I think it’s a nice idea in principle but would be difficult to run in practice. It would take a lot of money and time to manage something of that size, if you think there are millions of people in the U.K. then there could be thousands of live postings at any one time. It would take a lot of maintenance and upkeep to post/manage/due diligence check for nothing dodgy or illegal (presumably the government could be in trouble if they’re posting ads for scam jobs or their database is advertising roles which discriminate in who can apply etc) - and would probably need enormous server space and a large team from a tech perspective etc. And what a nightmare if it went down etc etc.

I work quite closely with my company’s recruitment team. We employ 2000 people and there are normally on average 20-30 live job postings at anyone time. Even maintaining those, checking the live and closing dates, allocating the applications to the relevant department/contact for review etc is hugely time consuming. They also get about 15-20 calls a week from recruitment companies asking if they need any help filling specific roles, some even have the cheek to try and refer candidates and get a commission even though there’s no agreement in place. I’d imagine the companies who post their roles could be similarly hounded.

@Lactarius

Because you'll end up with illiterate warehouse workers applying for high level coding jobs simply because they have to make X number of applications per week thus wasting everybody's time. The advantage of there only being a nominal fee is far outweighed by the additional sifting that results.

I've seen this from having to check the recruitment records of a large number of employers wishing to sponsor immigrants.

Wow! Illiterate warehouse workers? Please do carry on making such gross and crass assumptions about the cognitive abilities of staff in various jobs. Then come on here at some date moaning about the fact the someone has made a horrid judgy remark about one of your DCs...

Yabu. Daft idea. As a small business owner, why would I pay to advertise a job when I can do it for free on local social media?

It’s ridiculous. It would cost a fortune, be immensely time-consuming to maintain, make life difficult for employers and candidates alike in specialist industries… and with what benefits? None that I can see.

I find it a shame the local newspaper jobs page doesn't exist. That generally used to have all the local job adverts 30 years ago. Online sifting for jobs, even if you specify 5 mile radius tends to throw in some wide curve ball jobs that are miles away with no WFH option.

Because monopolies are generally not a good idea

Because the government put track and trace on excel, what on earth makes you think they are capable of a database of this size... (disclaimer this is not putting down the excellent IT people who do work for the government, its just unfortunate the decision makers dont always as the experts when planning something)

@daimbarsatemydogsbone

Job adverts are almost universally shite and many are fakes - but considering how shit the government is at IT projects, it's a no from me , not that it would be remotely enforceable.

That's not been my experience at all.

Self Assessment Tax Return
TV Licence
MOT
Passport
Driving license

All bloody brilliant website.

If you want to look at a shit website, try booking Cineworld tickets online using a gift card.....

Jobcentre plus tried this in the aftermath of the financial crash of 2008. It was a disaster.

Also how would this be managed? It would only work to fix your senario if every vacancy was advertised. But it would cost extra to a company to do this (nominal fee, additional job advert etc, unless you are suggesting the government stops businesses using other job boards which would be a dangerous precendent for the level of government control)

So if there is no incentive for companies to do it, then there has to be a penalty to not do it, otherwise businesses wont comply. But where does that stop? Does a local cafe putting a sign up in the window have to pay and advertise via the database, in which case its probably quicker and easier for the cafe to not advertise and employ friends of friends and other employees, ironically making it harder for some to get a job

The government could use tech (web scraping?) to pull in the adverts automatically to link you through to the job boards, but they wouldnt make money off this. So then its quicker cheaper and easier for them to provide you with links and tell you to go look yourself

Ultimately most people need to take ownership of looking for jobs themselves and not expect the government to do it for them. However it would be useful (and may already exist) to have advisors at job centres who can help less technologically capable people with their search

The government job site is called find a job findajob.dwp.gov.uk/

Bythehairywartsonmywitchychin I've just put my job title and location into the form on that dwp link and it said "no results found" which is bollocks. It's a common job title, found in many large companies, government departments and public sector organisations. I live in a small, mostly residential suburb of Greater London, so there are probably a couple of dozen jobs within readonable travel distance at any one time - however it didn't ask me what radius to use, so probably it just searched that specific location. Not a great start.

... There us an Advanced Search option, but its an extra click and some people would never get that far.

@tuffluv

... There us an Advanced Search option, but its an extra click and some people would never get that far.

But now I've tried that too, and still no results.

If someone can’t be arsed with an extra click, they can’t need the job that much.

I've got the nous to go and find out where "jobs like mine" are advertised, but I still don't know if I have a full picture, and never will because some of them are never advertised - they are handled by recruitment consultants who, if they advertise, jealously guard important details (like who the employer is) until you make contact and hand over personal info, or else headhunt for them directly.

I would like