Is this a safeguarding issue? Or non issue?

[autumnvibes1]

NC but long time poster as this could be outing

My DS told me on a incident at school last night this is what he told me.

He said he had gone to the loo and another child in his class followed him in and did not go to the loo. This child poked his bum while his trousers and pants were down and then ran off laughing back to class. My DS felt upset by this and said he told the TA who told the teacher and told this boy off.

This is not the first time this child has done stuff in the toilets. Other things have been looking under toilet doors of others. This boy also hurts others in the classroom.

So AIBU to think this is a safeguarding issue in that the boy is clearly not respecting other childrens boundaries and upsetting them and therefore he should be accompanied to the toilet by a TA. I've just spoken to my DS about the nspcc pants and reassured him he did the right thing telling the teacher about what happened. I don't want him to feel worried or sad when going to the toilet. Also for ref he is in yr1

Go to school SG lead and explain what happened. If they do nothing then ring police. Sadly some schools try to brush things under carpet and allow inappropriate behaviour to continue.

Yes it is and I agree some schools try to brush things under the carpet.

@autumnvibes1

Thank you for your replies. I thought this is a safeguarding issue too but i wanted to ask because I had posted on a mum group on FB what i should do regarding approaching the school and thought this was a SG issue. I got hammered and so many mums were telling me i was making it a huge issue and that it wasn't one! When in actual fact i've had SG training and recognised this was an issue but didnt know how to approach it with the school.

I don't think it should be a discussion for a fb group. School know and have acted by all accounts. Y1 is only aged 5 for most of the class right now.

There is nothing wrong with the op posting it on Facebook there are parenting support groups on there and you can post anonymous, no different to MN.

FB wasn't the place for it.

SG issue - yes.

In regards to Jossbows comment - I think this was badly worded and came out as victim blaming however I think it had some validity however badly worded. If it was my child I would be giving them advice as to how to protect them from it happening again (whilst making it completely clear he shouldn't have to and it wasn't his fault but he needs the tools to feel he can control the situation).

School need to put in place measures to stop it.

@washingmachines4

FB wasn't the place for it.

SG issue - yes.

In regards to Jossbows comment - I think this was badly worded and came out as victim blaming however I think it had some validity however badly worded. If it was my child I would be giving them advice as to how to protect them from it happening again (whilst making it completely clear he shouldn't have to and it wasn't his fault but he needs the tools to feel he can control the situation).

School need to put in place measures to stop it.

Again, i feel this is victim blaming but more subtle. How is he supposed to protect himself whilst he is in the act of having a wee........?

Again interventions should be put into place so this does not happen in the first place, not my DS making amendments to his life because of an issue with another child.

So I have had a response from his teacher. And to say I'm extremely unhappy is an understatement!
Apparently they follow a traffic system with behaviour. This was marked as green and no safeguarding was needed. This child was then only moved down the behaviour chart and that was it!
I emailed the head teacher who is safeguarding lead. He said I've spoken to the teacher this is what she did but if you want to still have a meeting we can arrange one.
I'm astonished! Everyone in my family and close friends who I've told have all instantly said it's a SG issue and needs addressing and measures put in to prevent. But the school seem to be taking it as nothing happened!!

I'm sorry I can't remember who mentioned this happened to them and then it escalated but I feel this is taking the same route

@autumnvibes1

If the school wont take action then all you can do is be on it.

It was easier for me because the child had other behaviours (bullying, violence, biting) and my son was being targeted with those. The school still ignored the bum poking and after the penis grabbing, they still wouldnt have done anything had I not used the gossip tree to find his social worker and call myself as well as calling the police. I didnt want to say it was me in my last post as I didn't want to make this about me so kept it 3rd person but think you needed a personal perspective now!

You're going to have to be on it. Nothing else might happen and that would be great but if it does, the schol likely wont do anything so you'll need to be the driving force.

I'd be tempted to escalate rapidly.
"I'm sorry head teacher but the is an unsatisfactory response to a child being sexually abused in your school. Will be contacting police, lea equivalent etc on Monday"
Throw the carpet in the air so nothing goes under it.

Contact social services op then the school will take if more serious

It's just got worse! I googled the head to see how long he's been head for. Up pops his Twitter open to the public. I scan through. Quite a few tweets being made about sexual stuff and the kids in school.
One being about a show and tell and one boy brings in what he thinks is a rocket but it's not and it's from his mum's top draw!!!!

Ive taken screen shots. Like wtf. When you work with kids who will have social media you are told to lock it down. But even so why is he posting shit like this. I don't know what to do or who to speak to........

Send a description of the event, his response (with screenshots if anything was in writing) and also screenshots of his tweets to the governors/the local authority if you're in Scotland.

Not all head teachers are nice.

This bloody shocked me.

www.tortoisemedia.com/audio/the-porn-headmaster/

I'm honestly just so shocked. I showed my partner who is a primary school teacher and they are shocked too!
My DS old teacher is the staff governor and she is someone I feel I can talk to. I think I might bring this to her attention as she was such a good teacher and caring.