A voluntary Covid contribution/tax for those who can afford it?

[MorrisZapp]

I've thought about this a lot. We know the Covid crisis is causing problems at every level of society and that the knock on effects will last a long time, possibly a lifetime.

People are skint, people have lost their jobs, the NHS is at the absolute edge and we all know people who have struggled to get appropriate care.

However, there are lots of people like me. I didn't lose my job, I saved up during lockdown because there was nowhere to go. I probably won't go abroad for years.

I would happily make a voluntary tax donation to help ease this crisis if and only if it was guaranteed to be ring fenced for the NHS and for people struggling because of the knock on effects of Covid.

Would anyone else offer up a voluntary tax, in these unprecedented times? I'm selfish by nature btw, I want normal life back. If others are helped then all the better.

As far as I'm aware there is no charity I can donate to that will recruit, train and resource the NHS. But that's what I want to help with, ultimately helping us all.

I have been donating every penny we saved to foodbanks and other charities and think this is a much better use of the money than giving it to the government.

Not while tories are literally spunking our taxes away to their friends with outrageously corrupt contracts

It'll just go to some unaccredited lab mates of some connected wanker to pretend to do covid tests they aren't fucking well doing.

Don't voluntarily give wealthy powerful people your hard earned money as some sort of community gesture. They will never return the favour.

@AnyFucker

Labour would spunk it on something stupid too, btw

And this.

2 sides of the same connected wanker coin.

[quote AnyFucker]@LampLighter414 buy to let landlords pay the same tax on their earnings as everyone else. Do you think they are exempt ?[/quote]
For a private landlord - their earnings from rental of property are not subject to national insurance contributions. Only employment income is. Sorry you are wrong.

The only case where they are really impacted is if they hold their buy to lets within a company and pay themselves using dividends or a salary.

Reality is the vast majority of BTL landlords will pay nothing extra on their rental income.

I don't believe you can have a voluntary tax- by definition payment of tax is a legislative requirement. A voluntary payment to HMT could perhaps be classed as a charitable donation?

Reality is the vast majority of BTL landlords will pay nothing extra on their rental income

Tell that to HMRC

if voluntary then nothing stops you donating the money to related charities.

Absolutely no fucking way.

@AnyFucker

Reality is the vast majority of BTL landlords will pay nothing extra on their rental income

Tell that to HMRC

I don't think you get it. Even if they declare the income as they are supposed to - they are subject to income tax (which is not increasing) but not National Insurance (which is increasing). I'm sure there are quite a few landlords renting out houses that declare nothing however and dodge the whole lot - I've come across cash-in-hand HMO landlords I suspect of doing this in the past.

Basically the government have decided to only tax people who work for their money (employment income - subject to NICs) more.

Just contribute to a local hospice OP
Really little better than that

@Sprostongreen21

Nope this government wouldn’t spend it properly anyway just like the national insurance increase won’t go where needed either.

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@LampLighter414

BTL landlords get £1000 before taxed
Workers get £11k

I already pay for these things through my tsx and national insurance contributions. There is plenty of money in the pot if we stop subsidising bloody politicians for pointless shit that everyone else has budget for out of their actual wages. Why should our taxes pay for their meals when I have to microwave a tin of soup each lunch? We could also start maling jobs pay a livable wage which generally means better health outcomes as people can affird to live healthier lives ergo less impact of food poverty on the NHS. We need to look at the way our money is spent as a nation.

[quote Reallyimeanreally2022]@LampLighter414

BTL landlords get £1000 before taxed
Workers get £11k[/quote]
A career land land would get the £12,570 personal allowance and then either £1,000 or allowable expenses above this amount.

Workers also get £12,570 personal allowance.

Accidental landlords could sell if they don’t want to pay tax on letting income.

You can voluntarily over pay tax if you want to. I'm not sure how it's done but it's definitely possible.

We upped our monthly donation to the local food bank at the start of lockdown though and have kept it at that level since, as it was clear to us at that lockdown would push more people into financial hardship, so we wanted to help them. I don't want to give the government any more money to waste though.

Want the most bang for your buck? Meet a “poor person” and pick up their Tesco bill. See a woman struggling in primark with a handful of children and checking labels? Tap your card at the till.

Empty donations won’t ever help those for whom they were intended.

You could do what I do and donate to the nurses support charity via the RCN. Help keep the nurses we do have, on their feet and sane.

I paid enough in tax doing extra shifts at work because of covid.

@SparklyLeprechaun

No. I'm already paying more than enough tax. And there's no chance in hell I would voluntarily pay more into this huge mismanaged money pit that is the NHS.

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