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To ask what dishes you would say are 'pub grub'?

225 replies

Ilovepearjuice · 20/10/2021 20:07

My friend is hoping to take over a pub and wants to keep the menu to fairly traditional, starting with the firm favourites. She asked for some opinions on what these favourites would be.

My initial thinking was:
Fish and chips
Lasagne
Pie and mash
Ploughman's
Roast on Sundays

So, people of Mumsnet, when you think of a proper, traditional British pub, what do you expect to see on the menu?

OP posts:
shinynewapple21 · 20/10/2021 22:18

And cheese ploughman's

Wisewordswouldhelp · 20/10/2021 22:21

Scampi and Chips
Ham, egg and chips
Burgers
Pies
Sausage and mash
Salmon, potato and veg

rooarsome · 20/10/2021 22:30

Our family tend to go for one of the following;
Fish and chips
Steak pie with a proper puff pastry lid
Gammon
Mixed grill

Proper home made chips rather than frozen chips are fantastic 👍

notanothertakeaway · 20/10/2021 22:32

I think a lot of pub menus are not very interesting TBH. I'd be interested in a pub that served a small range of freshly cooked dishes with a mix of standard pub food and a couple of slightly more unusual dishes

I tend to order scampi, as I don't deep fry at home

Mooloolabababy · 20/10/2021 22:33

Definitely agree on decent vegetarian/vegan options. Dh and dd are vegetarian and we've had to walk out of pubs before because the vege options were so shit! Decent plant based options and not just those crappy vege burgers that are full of sweetcorn and peas Hmm

bunnybopbop · 20/10/2021 22:34

Pie of the day and mash
Soup of the day
Lasagne deffo!
Fish and chips
Mushroom risotto
Chicken curry
Scampi and chips

Roast on a Sunday or a BBQ in the garden in the summer.

Lunch / light bites menu:
Jacket potato's (cheese, beans and cheese, chilli, tuna Mayo)
Good sandwich selection with fries / salad
Nachos

Sides:
Fries
'Dirty' fries (cheese, bacon etc)
Mac cheese
Sweet potato fries
Cheesy garlic bread

Puds:
Cheese cake
Some kind of crumble and custard
Sticky toffee pudding
Eton mess

My late grandfather owned a lovely pub in Cornwall and that was pretty much the whole menu plus some salads / anti pasti and sharer boards. :)

He also did curry and a pint nights on a Wednesday.
Gin Wednesdays were also a thing IIRC

VestaTilley · 20/10/2021 22:35

Will your friend by appointing a chef and a manager who is used to running pubs? I’ve worked in a few and would suggest - if not already done - visiting the local competition, seeing what they do well and paying a good wage for a good pub chef!

knittingaddict · 20/10/2021 22:42

Please do decent roast potatoes with the roast. I think a roast dinner rises or falls on it's roast spuds. None of those dry potatoes. We need a proper one with a nice roughed up crispy skin and cooked in dripping.

Also cauliflower cheese is a must.

Graphista · 20/10/2021 22:46

First of all is the pub currently a "traditional" pub as I think it would be a business mistake to change it if it weren't as she may lose her "regulars"

If it's not traditional that may be because there is a rival nearby that does it very well and she'd be foolish to try and compete with.

The pub game is HARD going my mum used to do pub management for landlords when they went on holiday etc it's real graft! Adding a change on top of adjusting to that could be exhausting too.

That said, in terms of the menu I would say:

Starters :

Baked cheese always goes down well
Deep fried cheese too love breadcrumbed and deep fried Brie or Camembert with a sweet chutney
Garlic mushrooms
Prawn cocktail
Melba toast and pate
Egg mayonnaise salad

Mains :

Ploughman's
Meat pie (usually steak and ale) with mash and peas
Steak and kidney pudding
Macaroni cheese
Roast
Gammon egg and chips
Sausage and mash
Soup and sandwiches
Soup and chips (prob a purely Scots thing)

@LaurieFairyCake

Must admit I thought:
Chicken in a basket
Scampi

Chips made from potatoes fresh and DEEP FRIED none of this healthy oven baked nonsense

Scotch eggs
Pork pie
All day breakfast with related sandwiches
Shepherds pie (as in actual shepherds pie made with lamb mince)

@TwinklyBranch I was just thinking "nobody's said any puds"

I would say

Sticky toffee pudding
Bannoffee pie
Lemon meringue pie
Cheesecake
Chocolate fudge cake
Spotted dick, jam roly poly, treacle tart, fruit crumble all served with a proper home made custard

Have to agree with the other veggies/vegans such a menu would not be great for us.

These days she also has to be mindful of allergies and religious dietary requirements - this is why so few pubs do this now tbh Because these dishes tend to be quite problematic for these reasons

Knowing my friend, nothing will be from the freezer! She wants to appeal to families but keep things good quality and local/seasonal where possible

This is admirable but...again I wonder if she's any actual experience of running a pub?

Price point also needs to be considered and local tastes

I once worked in a cafe where the new to hospitality owners tried having a fairly...exotic? Menu? I mean this was 20 years ago and some of the stuff they had on the menu is still pretty uncommon.

I was a local to the area and had worked in hospitality there for several years and I thought this would be unsuccessful but they didn't listen to me initially. They also opened in the summer when the tourists were in and some of the tourists were a little more adventurous and they took that as encouragement but when the season was over and the money started to drop I pointed out again that it simply wasn't a menu that would appeal to locals who were quite traditional in their tastes AND didn't have loads of money to spend on eating out (area was very recently recovering from miners strikes etc) they uhmed and ahed then the winter hit and they realised they really needed to be more welcoming and more set up for the local tastes and prices.

Your regular/local customers are your bread and butter that's who you depend on in this industry especially in pubs!

There's a pub in the town I grew up in, has changed hands several times and still serves pretty much the same menu as in the 80's with a few additions. Very popular with especially older locals, my friends from there go most weeks if not more than once a week as they know the menu suits and the prices aren't insane and the staff are up to snuff. I'm 49 so yea it's an older clientele mostly - it was then too. But older folk tend to have more money to spend on eating out

That may be why she's thinking to err towards "traditional" but if it's a change to what the pub is known for that could be self sabotaging.

I'd also advise she "gets her feet wet" before making major changes - people rarely like a new broom sweeping a clean floor!

She could change the menu gradually - keep the popular favourites and introduce her own signature dishes

Toasties is a good call! Used to love getting a toastie in my parents local in the 70's made in a proper breville not this panini grill nonsense and having to watch not to scald my tongue Grin but best of all getting this as an eat out option means not having the faff of cleaning the thing!

I'm another saying rather than a kids menu offer a half portion menu - that will appeal to kids and pensioners and also when my own dd was little kids menus were crap and very ltd especially when you have a kid that hates chips and fried food! But I get that was just us but it WAS frustrating not to be able to eg just get her a half portion of pasta as it wasn't on the kids menu! It definitely influenced where we went and spent our money

Re diets - at least put the calories on the menu? I'm losing weight at the moment and eating out IS tricky and I'll admit I'm erring towards chain places as I can look up the calories! Costa and Starbucks have the cals on the price labels on their counters which is very helpful

Off topic but re not finding items online - sometimes it's how it's listed eg "gammon steak" may not return a result (even though it should!) but "gammon pack" or "gammon slices" or whatever would (supermarkets have their search parameters and wild cards etc set up very weirdly!) so sometimes try just "gammon" or go via the "browse" option to get the general dept I find I have to do that sometimes

Please do decent roast potatoes with the roast

I disagree they need to be made non veggie though, I can make perfectly good roasties without meat products and she won't want to have to lose custom by a usually veggie item not being veggie

I love a roast, I simply swap out the meat for a nut cutlet or Quorn fillet or similar, all the rest is naturally veggie and I have veggie gravy. Local carveries to me do veggie roast options, some you don't get anything instead of the meat, some you get something STUPID instead of the meat like pasta or a risotto - with a roast?! Wtf?! - a few do sensible veggie options like nut roast, lentil roast, roast veggie tart, mushroom Wellington etc

longestlurkerever · 20/10/2021 22:46

Part of it is price point too. My favourite pub grub is when you get s really good burger and child for less than a tenner, a decent roast for less than £15 or whatever. I'd you're paying £25 for your pub grub it loses its appeal

Candleabra · 20/10/2021 22:54

Do less meals but make them good and homemade. A huge menu in a pub makes my heart sink, you know it’s just microwaved.

DoncasterHombre · 20/10/2021 23:04

A 30 year old jar of pickled eggs and pork scratchings with hair on them.

SortCode · 20/10/2021 23:10

Scampi chips and peas
Fish abd chips
Sausage and mash
Pie, chips and gravy
Lasagna
Burger, chips salad and coleslaw
Gammon, egg/pineapple
Rump steak, chips, peas onion rings grilled tomato
Chicken tikka masala rice nan bread

garlictwist · 20/10/2021 23:18

I hate it when the only option on Sundays is a roast. I much prefer the choice as I really dislike roast dinners.

namebunny · 20/10/2021 23:26

as long as it’s good quality and reasonable price. Most depressing thing about Britain is endless pubs selling overpriced crap food. How hard is it to do a decent burger?

GinJeanie · 20/10/2021 23:27

Have to agree re homemade puddings - sticky toffee pudding, crumble etc. Pubs often get the ice cream to pudding ratio wrong though and give a tiny scoop which runs out before you've finished the pud. Worth considering as I sometimes think about asking for more ice-cream but then cba!

GinJeanie · 20/10/2021 23:31

How about a stew with thick bread and butter? Easy to make in bulk and a bit of a crowd pleaser. I remember Gordon Ramsey saying the best places have very few dishes on the menu but do them really really well (with great ingredients).

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/10/2021 23:33

Lunchtime or evening?

If lunchtime, then a range of sandwiches or wraps (with chips and/or salad) and baked potatoes with fillings. Or ploughman's. Maybe soup and some 'sturdier' options like pasta or fish and chips etc.

Evenings? Much heartier fare. Stews or lamb shanks or pork belly. A couple of curry options (including veggie) and lasagne is always on there. And home-made pies! And sausage and mash etc. Burger and chips etc.

I also love it when there is an option for a smaller or larger portion as I'm more of a grazer, while my other half is a hoover!

I don't do puddings apart from a cheese board (local cheeses = winner).

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/10/2021 23:35

Had forgotten about steak! A really good option is a minute steak (chips and salad) instead of rump or fillet. Much cheaper too.

Ohdofuckofdear · 20/10/2021 23:43

Toad in the hole
Cottage pie
Lamb hotpot
Beef stew
Chicken tikka masala,served with basmati rice,a decent naan bread and popadoms(I'm sure I've spelt that wrong).

Starters
Calamari
Stuffed potato skins
Chicken wings in different glazes

For deserts
Apple or Rhubarb crumble
Sticky toffee pudding
A few different sundaes

Does it show that I've eaten in lots of pubsGrin

Ohdofuckofdear · 20/10/2021 23:45

Ooh just remembered

Loaded wedges/loaded chips,you could do a smaller portion as a starter and a larger portion as a main.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/10/2021 23:45

Calamari is not pub grub! Unless you want it cooked from frozen and rubbery.

I had forgotten about toad in the hole though...

Againstmachine · 20/10/2021 23:49

Macaroni cheese

No no no that's not traditional.

Pies, bangers and mash fish and chips and even burgers.

HalfCakeHalfBiscuit · 21/10/2021 00:22

Proper traditional pub food:

  • pickled egg
  • pork scratchings
  • three day old curly cheese sandwiches
  • 'Big D' nuts
Boopeedoop · 21/10/2021 00:35

Stew and dumplings.