If you are double vaccinated are you ACTUALLY fully vaccinated?

[Blackpoolhotelier]

We're looking at booking a holiday and the country I want to visit is accepting fully vaccinated adults. Brilliant! We both are double jabbed- myself with Pfizer and dp with AZ. Except their rules are that both doses had to be done within 3 weeks for Pfizer and mine were 11weeks 6days apart- the recommended interval here. And 12 weeks for AZ and dp's were 16 weeks apart (he couldn't get time off work so not the fault of the NHS)
So essentially for this country and I suspect others together, neither of us are fully vaccinated, nor can we get fully vaccinated.
My teenage and preteen kids are not vaccinated and I'm now wondering if it would be better for them in terms of future freedoms to not get them their first jab until I can also get them a second jab within the internationally recommended time slot. Obviously I know that's not the point of the vaccine and the health benefits outweigh travel benefits, but still AIBU to consider this given they have no underlying health problems?
What was your interval? Are you considered fully vaccinated?

What country is that?

Are you sure you haven't misunderstood?
Perhaps it means you must have been vaccinated at least 3 weeks before you travel?

The vaccines may never be given at those intervals in the UK as 8 weeks was shown to be the most effective interval between doses

Although reading other studies shows that longer intervals gives better immune response for some vaccines

Thailand. On the Thai embassy website. I really hope I've misunderstood as I know there was a fuss about our government delaying the second dose but i don't remember the manufacturer recommendations

All I'm seeing is that fully vaccinated travellers isolate for 7 days, unvaccinated for 10 days.

I tried to upload a photo of it but it's not working. Word for word it says

Currently, the Ministry of Public Health has approved the following manufacturers and vaccines:
(.....)

1. AstraZeneca or Covishield by AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford, SK Bioscience (South Korea), Siam Bioscience, and Serum Institute of India (Covishield) - 2 doses needed / 4-12 week interval

1. Pfizer - BioNTech or Comirnaty by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech 2 doses needed / 3-week interval

(.....)

@Cuddlyrottweiler

All I'm seeing is that fully vaccinated travellers isolate for 7 days, unvaccinated for 10 days.

Me too, unless you’re going to Phuket under the sandbox scheme, in which case it’s made clear that the nhs pass is acceptable.

Can you link to what you are reading?
Still looks like most places still need you to quarantine for at least 7 days

I was looking for Christmas. The sandbox scheme is being extended Nov 1st to include Bangkok. Only 1 night in Bangkok then you are free to move around freely.... For the fully vaccinated. I wasn't going to book until this is confirmed but was looking at all the paperwork I'd need etc and realised we are not actually fully vaccinated

www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-travel-restrictions-updates

Under List of approved Covid 19 vaccines

Sorry I don't know how to add a link

Other pages of reading just said you needed to be 14 days post vaccination. Can you link to the page?

Can you link to where you've seen this. I can’t find it at all.

Oh! Looks like I can do links!

Is that not just the vaccines they themselves have approved rather than the dosage that travellers need to have had?

I doubt they would even look at the time between vaccines

@Blackpoolhotelier

www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-travel-restrictions-updates

Under List of approved Covid 19 vaccines

Sorry I don't know how to add a link

I don't think that's actually an official Thai government website. It says it's managed by a legal firm. I suspect the list is which vaccines are approved for use in Thailand and what intervals they are approved for. As far as I am see the actual Thai embassy website doesn't mention anything about dose intervals.

The covid pass has the dates of each vaccination. If that's what they've specified on their embassy website I would assume that is their rule? Though it would be easily missed by many I bet. But how could they accept an NHS covid pass if nobody had that time frame on the NHS?

london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

This is the official info

Is that not the minimum interval between doses? So you can't get, for example, pfizer jab 2 after 2 weeks, as the manufacturer recommend a minimum of 3 weeks between pfizer jabs?

@RichardMarxisinnocent

london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

This is the official info

That was from 1st October. Its supposed to be changing again, relaxing further, on November 1st, although it still hasn't been officially released yet. Hence why I was waiting for the next step confirmation

@AmyDeirdre

Is that not the minimum interval between doses? So you can't get, for example, pfizer jab 2 after 2 weeks, as the manufacturer recommend a minimum of 3 weeks between pfizer jabs?

I wondered that. But for Pfizer is says 3 weeks whereas for AZ is says between 4 -12 weeks. Wouldn't it just say minimum 4 weeks if that was the case?

[The study] "found that, after the second vaccine dose, neutralising antibody concentrations were higher after an interval of 6-14 weeks than after the 3-4 week regimen that was initially recommended."

www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1875

[quote SoItWas][The study] "found that, after the second vaccine dose, neutralising antibody concentrations were higher after an interval of 6-14 weeks than after the 3-4 week regimen that was initially recommended."

www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1875[/quote]
So it WAS initially recommended at 3-4 weeks. Thanks for that link.

Ha ha just noticed your username!

No one gets their 2nd vaccine exactly 3 weeks after the first (Pfizer). I got mine after 3 weeks 5 days. My vaccine cert just gives the date of the second vaccine and that I'm fully vaccinated.