Would you report an employers furlough fraud?

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As per the title, if an employer you worked for was paid furlough from the government and the employee(s) the furlough was meant for was actually still working FT for the employer and hasn't ever been on furlough, what would you do?

I am not the employee and my gripe is that eventually it's the tax payers who will end up paying for the fraud, or worse it's been mentioned that when the furlough stops and the employer has to start paying for full wages again there will be staff paid off.

I have another job lined up now anyway, but should I let it go because I will be hurting the employees that will be left if the employer gets a fine? The employer isn't a good employer to work for and the staff being paid furlough while working are actually their family members.

Thoughts in general please not really what I should do or my personal feelings, just WWYD x

As a carer who didn't get furlough and was working right in the frontline I'd be ringing up any and every instance of furough fraud.

I would. We'll be paying for this pandemic for years to come without fraudsters adding to the bill.

You said staff will probably be laid off anyway, you're not protecting anyone by keeping quiet.

I think I'd be inclined to report.

Yep I would

Do you mean the company was still operating fully but was claiming the furlough money? If so I'd definitely report it to HMRC. They have asked people to do that.

As a carer who gets just carer’s allowance for my DD and dreams of getting a paid job, likewise I’d report every case of fraud. The country is fucked and people defrauding the government just add to that.

Of course. After all, if it's all a misunderstanding it won't affect them.

Yes report it

Yes, the employer is stealing and honest tax payers will foot this bill. I've had 3 new employees have issues with their tax codes because the previous employer (3 different ones) had furloughed them despite them working, and kept them on the payroll on furlough after they left. It was only noticed when their tax code was adjusted for their new "second job". Cheeky bastards.

Yes I would report.

when the furlough stops
Furlough has stopped, it stopped as of the 30th September, HMRC are now compiling teams to start investigating.

Yes I would.

We put very few staff on furlough and we’re very clear ZERO work was to be undertaken, we only took 2 months at the start for about 10% of staff and really considered our position properly.

The businesses making fraudulent should be held accountable for sure.

Yes I would. Especially if I was leaving.

Yes, I'm a proper snitch

Yes report it for sure, public sector pay has been frozen for nearly a decade because we're told the coffers are empty. Anyone stealing furlough money is stealing from public sector workers who deserve more.

I'd sit down with a nice hot coffee and get to drafting it, look over it a few times to ensure all the detail is there and send.

@HollowTalk

Do you mean the company was still operating fully but was claiming the furlough money? If so I'd definitely report it to HMRC. They have asked people to do that.

Yep still open for business fully and claimed the money. One of the family members told me they were furloughed and I worked with them nearly everyday. One employee also got double pay in some instances, their furlough and a cash bung for coming in on a weekend day while others worked for minimum wage in shit conditions. X

Yes I would report them.

Absolutely, the profiteering off covid has been shocking, I would report every single instance I come across.

@BoomChicka

Yes, the employer is stealing and honest tax payers will foot this bill. I've had 3 new employees have issues with their tax codes because the previous employer (3 different ones) had furloughed them despite them working, and kept them on the payroll on furlough after they left. It was only noticed when their tax code was adjusted for their new "second job". Cheeky bastards.

Bloody Nora! That's awful and I hope those employers are held accountable too.

This lot claimed the grant for business assistance, bought a new van, a new car and 2 big garden domes throughout 🤷‍♀️ unbelievable.

Yes I would report.