Would you send you toddler to a nursery with a ' needs improvement ' status?

[sicko]

Just that really. Ofsted report isn't great..

Not with poor safeguarding no.

😂 Ofsted undercover, send in a wired 2yo for the day.

Seriously OP the concerns from that report are high. If there's another option, take it.

I agree that Ofsted reports can paint a terrible picture that isn’t really the case, but that sounds awful OP. Don’t beat yourself up for not reading it before you paid the initial fees. Things are really hard when you’re not well and you have kids to look after. I would definitely not want my child in that nursery though, far too many safe guarding issues.

@Brightbluebell

Ofsted is nonsense. Unless the report mentions serious safeguarding concerns, ignore it. Ask to have a look round, talk to parents and see for yourself.

The report does say there are serious safeguarding concerns...

As PP, the needs improvement category wouldn’t bother me but the specific concerns in that report would.

Children not within sight OR hearing of adults (completely unsupervised!) and this is when they are at their absolute best during an inspection
Adult:child ratios not adhered to.

Those alone would make it a total no for me. Not even if desperate - your child could end up getting seriously hurt.
You might be able to over look crap activities or food if you really needed the childcare, but not basics like your child actually being safe.

No I wouldn’t. In theory, a low rated establishment would be pulling out all the stops to get a better rating. However, in practice that doesn’t always happen. My secondary school for example got satisfactory the year I left (satisfactory is the same as requires improvement these days, they changed the way they rate), failed 2 years later, remained in special measures for THREE YEARS and has since only managed to scrape by requires improvement at every inspection since. So in 10 years, they’ve gone from shit to slightly less shit. I really think the only reason it hasn’t shut down is cos it’s the only secondary school in this entire town and they’d have to find school places for roughly 1500 kids. I get that’s a secondary school, but imo I wouldn’t be sending my child somewhere that will “hopefully” buck their ideas up. And if that was a nursery in the same position as my old school, I imagine they’d of been shut down ages ago.

Also the serious safeguarding concerns noted would be a no no.

All round it’s a no from me.

Nope! Wouldn't even go look at a nursery with that assessment

and this was available..

And now you know why

Safeguarding raised as an issue? Hell no!

Frankly I'm amazed it's still being allowed to operate

I'm a former childminder myself and ofsted I think usually have a fair idea about a place they're assessing in most cases.

That is a pretty damning report by ofsted standards!

Yeah definitely not sending my child there anymore. Thanks everyone ! I just wish I had read the report an hour earlier.

Given the fact they are now RI, everyone will be crawling all over them. there is likely to be a lot of staff turnover, but should also be a lot of support and training. Putting DC in now wouldn't worry me, but I do feel for the parents of existing attendees.

I think you might as well try to get your money back OP. I think it would be fair enough to say that you have now read their report and have serious concerns, so will they please refund you, or at least some of it.

For schools I wouldn't be as bothered. For a nursery, absolutely no way on earth. The bit about not reporting major incidents probably means that they had one such major incident, were inspected, and further issues were found. Or at least that is my speculation.

I'm usually one to say that ofsted reports should be taken with a pinch of salt. (I've worked in an 'outstanding' nursery that really was not worthy of it.) But, safeguarding issues would worry me. This nursery doesn't sound good at all.

I wouldn't take an ofsted rating as the be all and end all, so wouldn't prioritise outstanding over good ofsted, but inadequate rating including safeguarding concerns would be a giant red flag to me.

I would never go on an Ofsted report, I’d look around and make up my own mind. I don’t consider Ofsted fit for purpose.

Absolutely not. I am a teacher.

@Seashor

I would never go on an Ofsted report, I’d look around and make up my own mind. I don’t consider Ofsted fit for purpose.

OK fair enough. I did look around and thought staff were lovely. Also the faculties were great. The only thing I didn't like is that it was a bit run down and could do with a deep clean. I saw some corners with dust. It just looked a bit old. I like new things. Initially I was going to leave it, based on the look, but then got desperate and decided I was being a snob.

The facilities are amazing. It's absolutely huge and has amazing garden areas and even its own, massive soft play

Our preschool is technically inadequate but since that inspection we have had a totally new staff plus entirely new parent committee. We were due to be reinspected during covid but it hasn't happened yet and actually the manager said to me the other day she's desperate for them to come in and for us to shake off the 'inadequate'. I would look in to it all more op before you pull out your dc.

No

Has the ofsted inspection come from a complaint or incident which has led to the safe guarding fail or is it just a inspection that was due?

Normally I would almost recommend it - nurseries in this position are given tonnes of support and intervention and are expected to improve rapidly with action plans and regular involvement from experts. But the safeguarding thing is a huge concern, so in this case I wouldn't.

Nope

Nope

@LetsGoFlyAKiteee

Has the ofsted inspection come from a complaint or incident which has led to the safe guarding fail or is it just a inspection that was due?

I think so !

Looks like this nursery has had a couple of poor inspections and complaints about ratios and supervision going back to 2017.