I'm thinking the high street deserves to die?

[highstreetdiestreet]

Urgently need a black dress for a funeral, looked around the whole of York, nothing.

Utter dross.

Is it covid/brexit/mid-season/my being pregnant's fault?

[quote Cheeseandlobster]@highstreetdiestreet well what do you think will happen if the high street dies as you put it? Shops will close so people will be out of a job. And people won't be able to see goods in person, try things on etc. So yes, this is exactly what you saying if you want the High St to disappear [/quote]
I haven't said I want it to disappear.

It's the disconnect between online stock and physical stock that gets my goat. I needed some size 14 jeans after wearing through the knees on my favourite pair. I know Next jeans fit perfectly, so I popped into town to get some. Not a single size 14 blue jean in the shop. I couldn't find a single person to ask for help with looking in the stock room because they were all tied up with either click and collect orders or home shopping returns.

@highstreetdiestreet if something dies it doesn't come back. So yes it disappears.

[quote Cheeseandlobster]@highstreetdiestreet if something dies it doesn't come back. So yes it disappears.[/quote]
And ?

There wasn't a "High Street" 500 years ago. Why should there be one in 500 years time ?

You can if you're wfh

There used to be great maternity clothes shop in York called expecting. I’ve just looked it up and it has closed down.

The high street will change.
It will become more experience based.
It used to be that people would go to town to shop and then stop off at a coffee shop. In the not too distant future most people will go into town to meet friends and eat, with shopping as a bonus.

Things change. Jobs change. Look at all the people who used to deliver coal, mend TVs, operate telephone exchanges for example. All jobs that have pretty much gone. But 50 years ago no one was working as a Amazon delivery person, web designer, broadband installation engineer.
Old jobs go and new jobs arrive.

The op isn’t saying that the high street should die, just that it is signing it’s own death warrant.

No one expects an all black outfit for a funeral nowadays. Any dark or subdued colour is considered acceptable. I loved my grandmother but I wore dark blue to her funeral. She was an immensely practical woman and would not have wished me to go out and buy something specially.

Mourning is done in the heart. A funeral is just a vulgar show for the world.

bit of a vicious circle isnt it, because shops close down because so many people are buying online. Im surprised you cant find anything in black suitable for a funeral though.
Id try h&m, Primark, M&S, Fatface,TKmaxx and I think id check out the charity shops too.

Id hate for the high street to die and to only be able to buy online though. Its bad enough as it is, but I think the way to tackle it is to actually use real shops more. If you dont use it, you lose it.

Also could you dye something black that you already have?

@PopcornPeacock

I remember the joy of high st shopping in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I would get the early bus to leeds or train to York on a saturday morning. and be overwhelmed with the choice of shops - chains and independents alike. I'd have a brief stop for lunch then carry on throughout the afternoon trying on and buying a wide range of clothes, with an ever increasing bags of swag on my arms, until I finally ran for my transport home after hearing the 'store closing' announcements. Everywhere would be buzzing with atmosphere, the pavements crowded, lights and music coming from the stores, and I'd have the feeling of success at finding what I wanted.

I still have - and wear some of those clothes as they're so beautifully made, gorgeous to wear and are full of memories.

These days I go into town maybe once every 3 months to look at the charity shops and that's it, as there is nothing else there. So sad and depressing.

You’ve answered your own question - people shop online so some high street shops close, so people shop online , so more high street shops close. Sadly we always knew that internet shopping would kill the high street eventually, and Covid has speeded up the process.

Mourning is done in the heart. A funeral is just a vulgar show for the world.

That isn't fair. At all.

It's not just the high street that annoys me for clothes shopping. Online there's also a sea of cheap, poorly-made tat and even shops that previously made decent quality clothes seem to be cutting corners or running dozens of lines a month. There seems to be a much bigger push on encouraging people to buy tat for the 78 fast fashion season of the year than to buy decent items that last.

[quote Cheeseandlobster]@highstreetdiestreet if something dies it doesn't come back. So yes it disappears.[/quote]
I haven't said that I want that to happen!

I agree with @highstreetdiestreet tbh.
Except that it’s nit new and has nothing to do with covid, brexit etc… (even though they’ve probably accelerated the whole thing).

The high street has been dying for years. Why would you go to M&S in the high street when you can get a better choice of THEIR OWN PRODUCTS online?
Why go on the high street when you can only find the big stores like Next etc… who all have online stores that are much easier to use?

And I’m not even going into the fact that, if you are looking for anything a bit different you just can’t find it.
Eg I’m a size 18 and most store department don’t have those sizes but have them online etc….

I’d love to go in the high street. To see something different, have a range of choices. Not to find the same old with a restricted choice and restricted sizes.

@simitra

No one expects an all black outfit for a funeral nowadays. Any dark or subdued colour is considered acceptable. I loved my grandmother but I wore dark blue to her funeral. She was an immensely practical woman and would not have wished me to go out and buy something specially.

Mourning is done in the heart. A funeral is just a vulgar show for the world.

I want to wear black.

Thanks for calling funerals vulgar. Nice person.

@simitra

No one expects an all black outfit for a funeral nowadays. Any dark or subdued colour is considered acceptable. I loved my grandmother but I wore dark blue to her funeral. She was an immensely practical woman and would not have wished me to go out and buy something specially.

Mourning is done in the heart. A funeral is just a vulgar show for the world.

What an unpleasant comment. Why wouldn’t you want something new? Her grandmother might have been a traditionalist who would have wanted everyone in black.

And a funeral is often religious and meaningful to the family as well as being the wishes of the departed. To call that vulgar is unnecessary.

The high street is shit at the minute, I do miss it though! I had to nip out today to pick up a top for a night out on Friday (working full time this week so no chance to go after work) I didn't want to order a load of stuff online only to send it back as I'm a bit cash strapped. So went in to my local town. There used to be a new look and a Dorothy Perkins there, where I could usually pick something up for a good price, well they've all gone now so I was left with one choice, that was peacocks. That is the only clothes shop left in my local town.

@Bagamoyo1, I disagree.

@PopcornPeacock mentioned something essential that has completely disappeared. Independent shops.
Ime good independent she’s are making the whole difference. It allows people to try on something different. It allows for more choices, different styles etc…

Yea the Internet is playing a huge part. I suspect most big brands like Next etc.. would actually prefer to see us all go online tbh. But not JUST the Internet.

@EatSleepRantRepeat

YANBU. Everything has become cheap scratchy fast fashion at boutique prices.

Having my own challenges today - trying to finish some crafting and every craft shop in a 15 mile radius is closed on Sundays. Like we're all able to pop in between 10-4 on a Monday. I'll end up either at amazon or John Lewis

Our local garden centre has "the works" that might be worth a try x

[quote Cheeseandlobster]@highstreetdiestreet well what do you think will happen if the high street dies as you put it? Shops will close so people will be out of a job. And people won't be able to see goods in person, try things on etc. So yes, this is exactly what you saying if you want the High St to disappear [/quote]
Huh? This again. What happened when the horse and coach went out with the advent of cars. Or when people started shopping at supermarkets rather than L corner shops. Change doesn’t mean jobs disappear, they just move.

I've really struggled with maternity wear. Everything is casual (sports bra tops and joggers) or sports leggings and sheer tops.

I just want nice clothes that are work appropriate that don't cling or are too baggy and make me look frumpy. I think I'm just getting too old for modern fashion (I'm 30)

On a similar vein, I was looking for ties for my DS .

Just regular/slim non snazzy ties , not too fussy . Wanted blue/grey . Not silk

Tried:
Sainsbury -none
H&M -too comedy
M&S- had some but silk
Primark-none
George at Asda- had a duo pack but only liked one

Evetually got some in Next which isn't a shop I normally go to . They were still limited though

TKMaxx had a few and one very similar to the Next one ( branded name) but 50% more

Loads on-line . 100s of them.

I used to love shopping in nearby Chester. The precinct was always busy with a lovely coffee shop in the middle. Last time I went most of the shops had gone, the coffe shop wasn't there and the whole place seemed empty. Now that Debenhams has gone it must be like a ghost town.

I worked for Laura Ashley in the 1990's and the high street was buzzing in Nottingham
Saturday was a brilliant day to work and we always kept our best uniform for the weekends and we all had a great time

We all (retail workers) knew each other it was a lovely community we'd give out the "friends and family vouchers" and serve Buck's Fizz and nibbles and put up balloons on sales and product launch events

Those were the days

The saddest thing for me has been tho now I have kids old enough to love the experience- the Disney shop has closed how sad is that?