£20 per week Universal credit changes

[FlatteredFool]

I've been worrying about the £20 a week extra stopping for a while although I can't say I noticed an increase in the amount I was given. Today I've looked at the breakdown of the benefit and discovered that the extra was taken off me anyway due to the benefit cap. If I didn't get child maintenance, not that he pays the right amount, then I'd be scraping by at best. The benefit cap takes £380 a month off. During the top up times it was £460. So the actual amount I get hasn't changed. How can the government say they are helping when they aren't at all?

@MrsSkylerWhite

JasonMomoasgirlfriend

@Thedogscollar Enforcement of non-payment of child maintenance.

The uplift wasn't put in place to cover the rising food or energy bills that's happening right now.“

Aw, you’re all heart, aren’t you?

If people were struggling even with the £20 uplift, how do you imagine they’re going to manage now with rising costs?

I think something else should be implemented. Like it's fair enough to remove something that we all knew was temporary. I do think there will need to be something implemented to cover the rising cost of food and energy though. Maybe £20 isn't even enough, I don't know.

@iamtheoneandonlyyy why can't the enforcement work?

[quote JasonMomoasgirlfriend]@iamtheoneandonlyyy why can't the enforcement work?[/quote]
Are you being stupid deliberately?

And as others have said the point of the temporary uplift was to compensate people on furlough only getting 80 per cent wages.

It just happened to go to everyone on uc, including those not working or furlough.

[quote JasonMomoasgirlfriend]@iamtheoneandonlyyy why can't the enforcement work?[/quote]
Are you actually being serious

All these informative posts...

The op works love so off you pop with your stupid comments
Did OP said she worked? I thought the cap oy applied to those who didn't?

@Dishwashersaurous

And as others have said the point of the temporary uplift was to compensate people on furlough only getting 80 per cent wages.

It just happened to go to everyone on uc, including those not working or furlough.

This doesn't make it right to remove it when we are heading for a hellish winter with escalating food and heating costs.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend

All these informative posts..“

When you’re in an hole, best stop digging ….

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

All these informative posts...

Ditto

Clearly no one has an answer.

If she works then it must be less then 16 hours a week at minimum wage.

Otherwise the cap wouldn't apply

There is an entirely separate discussion about whether current benefit levels are sufficient. And that discussion applies to the whole benefit system including legacy benefits which most disabled people are on, not just universal credit. The legacy benefits didn't get the temporary uplift.

But the government won a general election landslide less than two years ago including a platform of the current benefit system.

Therefore voters are arguably happy with the current system

@Rooroobear

Without having to earn it!!!! Oh my goodness all the village idiots are out today!! The op works love so off you pop with your stupid comments

Nope. If the OP works they wouldn't be subject to the benefit cap. So £20k per year minimum tax free and unearned and still moaning.

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

Maybe you need to ensure the father pays the correct amount for the children he chose to have.

You're part of the reason they get away with not paying with an attitude like that, because people like you are making excuses for these men by saying it's the woman's responsibility to make them pay and the woman just hasn't done enough if they don't pay. I had thousands written off in back child support eventually, I badgered them to death about it and that was their response, they are totally unwilling to use any of the powers they actually have to force payment in many cases, and I do think they wrote it off and said they weren't trying to stop me being on at them all the time. He gets to walk away Scot free from a child he 50% made and 50% wanted (until he got bored) and I get to take the blame from judgemental people like you who really don't have a clue. 👏👏👏👏👏

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

Clearly no one has an answer.

It's never worked. Enforcement rarely if ever is followed through. Any single contact made to the Child Maintenance Service takes weeks to be followed up. Ince they contact the other party, the other party will come back with some load of lies and then you have to argue it and start the entire process over again. It's a sick service and people recommending mothers just 'enforce it' is like saying to a firefighter by a wild bushfire 'just stop it then'

@Maverickess no I think it's abhorrent he hasn't paid his fair share for his own child. I am actually shocked that CMS don't enforce what they say they can.
I don't think it should be up to her to have to do it but he certainly won't so then what happens? Someone has to do something I guess.
I don't understand why they don't use their powers?

@iamtheoneandonlyyy yeh sorry I didn't actually know this. I thought if there's a process in place it would be followed. So apologies to the way I have worded previous posts.

Cms don’t enforce anything, my ex didn’t pay child maintenance for 3 years because he wasn’t working or claiming benefits, child maintenance service told me they wouldn’t “enforce”
Anything at all because he could be living off a partner 😑

[quote JasonMomoasgirlfriend]@iamtheoneandonlyyy why can't the enforcement work?[/quote]
Read my above post.
For enforcement to work, it has to be used, it wasn't in my case and many others, it's quite common. He went years racking a debt up that I didn't get an option about when it came to writing it off.
They need to be as hot on this as they are on missing a council tax payment! And employ those people who collect that for maintenance!

So does that mean then that he doesn't claim anything to get out of paying for his kid(s)?

@Twelveshoes

I knew the £20 was temporary so I am not stressing about it.

However, I am an IDVA full time. I get UC. I don’t see how Johnson can simultaneously say they want violence against women sorted out but also tell people paid to do that to leave their jobs and get better paid ones.

Is also one reason why women can't leave in first place. Am victim and terrified of universal credit. Government helps abusers and encourages violence against women cos abuser just has to stop woman working then she's got no way out.

Though probably doesn't matter about the £20 really cos landlords don't take benefit tenants so women can't leave violence anyway cos there's not enough safe places to live. Is why I had to go back after refuge. Better quickly killed than homeless and penniless.

Sorry separate thing. Do you know if any way can get private idva? Is postcode lottery if get help or not. My area says just go to police which is no good as then they more angry and you face homeless. They also say to just find new place to live. Is also no good if disabled cos no landlords take you except illegal slum ones. Is places here that take referrals from people like idvas but lottery if you get one that wants to help.

Is why so many murders of women.

I did @Maverickess but the bit I don't get is why they aren't enforcing it. What's to gain from taking no action?

My ex didn’t work or claim benefits he was renting rooms out in his house and getting money that way but it was all cash, cms wasn’t interested as he “could be living off a partner” they weren’t interested in pursuing any case against him, he racked up loads of debts for not paying but then when he eventually went on benefits after 3 years I was told he didn’t have to pay any of the debts because people on benefits don’t need to pay cm debts, they then wrote to me to tell me they were going to be writing off all the debt so never received any of it

Fucking hell that's insane