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Is a junior doctor in a&e

40 replies

User6777000 · 04/10/2021 21:09

One that’s just left university

OP posts:
SmellyOldOwls · 04/10/2021 21:59

So are GPs all consultants then?

pianolessons1 · 04/10/2021 22:07

@SmellyOldOwls

So are GPs all consultants then?
Yes, a GP is equal in seniority to a consultant.
DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou · 04/10/2021 22:08

@SmellyOldOwls

So are GPs all consultants then?
No.
DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou · 04/10/2021 22:09

Yes, a GP is equal in seniority to a consultant.

Really? I was misinformed or not listening when told then.

HandforthParishCouncilClerk · 04/10/2021 22:14

No, many GPs are equivalent to a registrar, at least initially. As a GP trainee you still have to do your initial training on ward rotation, as all other JDs do.

Most junior doctors have years of experience and are very qualified.

Just avoid hospital on the first Weds in August!

pianolessons1 · 04/10/2021 22:20

@HandforthParishCouncilClerk

No, many GPs are equivalent to a registrar, at least initially. As a GP trainee you still have to do your initial training on ward rotation, as all other JDs do.

Most junior doctors have years of experience and are very qualified.

Just avoid hospital on the first Weds in August!

A GP trainee is equivalent to a registrar

A GP (by which I mean a doctor who has their certificate of specialist training (CCT) in general practice) is equivalent to a consultant.

HotMummaSummer · 04/10/2021 22:27

Most A and E departments have locum (bank) doctors working for them. There are always loads of shifts going in A and E and they pay from £35 to £75 per hour through agencies.
This may explain why there you end up seeing different doctors...

countbackfromten · 04/10/2021 22:29

I’m 12 years in and still a junior doctor and will be for another 2 years. I’m also the most senior anaesthetist in the hospital at night, unless I have to get my boss in. Nothing junior about me bar the title!

Fwafwafwa · 04/10/2021 22:34

A GP is equivalent to a consultant, qualified GPs are also called "GP consultants". If you ever see a "GP registrar" that's someone in their final (ST3) year of training, which they spend in general practice.

There will obviously be a difference between a newly qualified GP and one who has worked in the role for many years. They also differ in their training experiences and special interests. It's not uncommon for GPs to be partially or fully dual qualified in another specialty. They work as team, so any GP coming across a problem they don't feel confident ought to be able to ask their GP colleague for help, and obviously they can also telephone or write to hospital specialties for advice.

It must be a very difficult and intimidating thing becoming a qualified GP after such a relatively short training programme, with possibly no first hand experience in key specialties. Imo, the training programme is short not because GP requires less training (far from it I believe it is one of the most challenging specialties there is) but sadly because of the need to keep supplying the dwindling GP workforce. Increasingly it's going to be even less qualified allied health professionals doing as much GP work as possible. In most instances that's perfectly fine, but then this cherry picking of the more straightforward stuff to AHPs does leave ever more challenging / complex work for GPs whose appointment times and admin sessions haven't increased in length accordingly... Another matter for another thread.

TroublesomeTrucks · 04/10/2021 22:42

I’ve been a qualified doctor for 11 years and a registrar for 5 years. I’m still a ‘junior’ doctor and will be for at least another 2 years. The term is a little misleading, I think.

Pythonesque · 04/10/2021 22:54

The terminology is hugely problematic. "Doctors in training" can be equally misunderstood. "Trainee doctor" is perhaps the worst as can sound like still a medical student ...

sleepyshiftworker · 05/10/2021 16:23

I'm more concerned OP that your chronic health complaints are landing you in the ED. Perhaps inappropriately?

theDudesmummy · 06/10/2021 18:06

I was a junior doctor for thirteen years. The term covers a lot of different people at different stages and doing different things.

olympicsrock · 06/10/2021 18:12

I’m 43 and qualified 17 years ago, about to become a consultant, on the specialist register , do big operations on my own. I am still a junior doctor Smile. It is a very broad term.

Both consultants and GPs are fully trained professionals. A GP is a generalist and consultants are specialists. We respect each other’s skills. Consultants generally have much longer training....

applespearsbears · 06/10/2021 19:04

@HandforthParishCouncilClerk

No, many GPs are equivalent to a registrar, at least initially. As a GP trainee you still have to do your initial training on ward rotation, as all other JDs do.

Most junior doctors have years of experience and are very qualified.

Just avoid hospital on the first Weds in August!

Smile
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