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Just Run

55 replies

cakeandcustard · 01/10/2021 22:08

On the BBC news advice to women if stopped by the police is to ask to speak to the control room on the radio or if in doubt 'just run' ... WTAF Angry I'm speechless, how is that protecting 50% of the public?

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BakingOfTheFoodCats · 02/10/2021 02:12

Did I read that they also said you should flag down a bus?!😐 I’m in London and there is NO way a bus would stop randomly at the side of the road if you tried to “flag it down”

Pikamoo · 02/10/2021 02:23

@BakingOfTheFoodCats exactly! Its not even guaranteed if you're at the bus stop! I guess the people making up this "advice" never used the bus regularly...

BakingOfTheFoodCats · 02/10/2021 02:36

[quote Pikamoo]@BakingOfTheFoodCats exactly! Its not even guaranteed if you're at the bus stop! I guess the people making up this "advice" never used the bus regularly...[/quote]
Yep I had a driver drive straight past me and my children who are in school uniform clearly trying to get them to school and we were AT the bus stop and he still drove past, zero chance of them stopping for a woman randomly waving them down on the side of the road, they will just assume she’s missed the bus not that she was in danger. Definitely said by someone who doesn’t usually get the bus!

TaraR2020 · 02/10/2021 02:39

Not to mention that the chances of being drop kicked to the floor are clearly zero...Angry

BakingOfTheFoodCats · 02/10/2021 02:42

I was verbally abused on the bus and the driver didn’t even do anything , the man was screaming at me and calling me all the names under the sun yet the driver refused to get him off, so how can they think a random bus driver is going to get involved with something happening on the side of the road? I called tfl as I was so shocked and was told that it wasn’t the drivers place to get involved 😣 so now suddenly we are expected to rely on bus drivers, ridiculous.

DumplingsAndStew · 02/10/2021 02:58

@romdowa

The advice in the media has just basically been stop getting murdered and raped by dodgy men. We don't want to do anything about these men , so you have to just stop getting hurt by them 🙄🙄
Yep it's very inconvenient for the menz
Mothership4two · 02/10/2021 03:10

I saw that on the News @cakeandcustard and was gob-smacked too. Unbelievable in the 21st Century

theThreeofWeevils · 02/10/2021 03:28

@Jasmine11

This advice is insane but surely a gift to any female criminals caught in the act of breaking and entering etc who will be able to resist arrest and make run for it with unwitting members of the public cheering her on and even helping her evade arrest.
ODFOD, and all the Biscuit you can eat while you're at it. Because of course female petty crime is the problem thst most needs solving. Biscuit
Boatingforthestars · 02/10/2021 04:17

I think the trouble is as the detainee if you were to somehow run checks, even if you could and it was a non genuine arrest scenario, then you are likely getting bundled into the car anyway. If someone is willing to kidnap and rape someone I'd imagine they aren't going to wait around for their plan to be foiled.
Which then means it's too late by the time you have been stopped. Something needs doing before it gets to that point.

Pixxie7 · 02/10/2021 04:26

They should make it that there should be 2 officers to arrest a woman.

Dragonpox · 02/10/2021 04:59

Are we to wear red bloomers so we can take them off to wave down the buses like the railway children?

Lex345 · 02/10/2021 05:14

I think its very telling the police themselves have even released guidance on what to do, including calling 999.

This response is interesting because sometimes, there is an incident on the news and the police will make a statement stating "this is an isolated incident". Instead what we have is an admission that this could happen again, which suggests the police recognise there is a problem.

If you cannot say with 100% certainty police officers won't abuse their position to rape and murder women, what kind of society are we living in.

SickAndTiredAgain · 02/10/2021 06:32

@BakingOfTheFoodCats

Did I read that they also said you should flag down a bus?!😐 I’m in London and there is NO way a bus would stop randomly at the side of the road if you tried to “flag it down”
If it wasn’t such a serious topic, the bus advice is so wtf its almost funny. Flag down a bus?? What planet are they on? I saw quite a good tweet referencing the ridiculousness of this:

“Who polices the police? Oh ok, it’s busses”

I imagine bus drivers also heard that advice and thought, sorry what - are we now expected to stop if someone waves at us to make sure they aren’t going to be murdered by a police officer??

NOTANUM · 02/10/2021 07:13

@Lex345

I think its very telling the police themselves have even released guidance on what to do, including calling 999.

This response is interesting because sometimes, there is an incident on the news and the police will make a statement stating "this is an isolated incident". Instead what we have is an admission that this could happen again, which suggests the police recognise there is a problem.

If you cannot say with 100% certainty police officers won't abuse their position to rape and murder women, what kind of society are we living in.

^ this
NOTANUM · 02/10/2021 07:15

Running away from a policeman is likely to end in being tasered.
I don't know what madness has consumed the police services around the country.

HomeSliceKnowsBest · 02/10/2021 07:57

Our fault again.

Jasmine11 · 02/10/2021 10:45

@theThreeofWeevils I was just pointing out the utter absurdity of the situation of being told to run from the point of view of the police having completely lost public trust - of course I don’t think female petty criminals the biggest issue here. Policing only works via public consent and if that has gone then they will not be able to carry out their legitimate activities, so where does that leave society? An even more dangerous place.

theThreeofWeevils · 02/10/2021 13:17

My apologies, @Jasmine11, I completely misread your post. Seen too mant 'women do bad things too' comments recently, but that was no excuse for me being so rude.

Jasmine11 · 02/10/2021 17:09

@theThreeofWeevils

My apologies, *@Jasmine11*, I completely misread your post. Seen too mant 'women do bad things too' comments recently, but that was no excuse for me being so rude.
Thank you for that x It's not surprising we are all so angry and on edge at the moment!
Letsgoforaskip · 02/10/2021 17:16

@00100001absolutely love this!

BeepingBB · 02/10/2021 17:28

Yep, because people of colour never get shot in the back when running from police.

Fizbosshoes · 02/10/2021 17:41

Just run away, because we all know wimmin are faster at running than men.... Look at all those women beating men in the 100m sprint...

Exactly. And of course women will always be wearing much more suitable clothing and footwear for running than men, that gives even more of an advantage!!Hmm

00100001 · 02/10/2021 18:53

if they do happen to catch us (obviously by us stumbling or something...silly women being clumsy...you must learn not to stumble when running) our naturally greater strength will surely be if an advantage to wrestle the man away from us and render him harmless!

GoIntoTheLight · 02/10/2021 19:00

Surely the old advice would have been “flag down a police officer”, now they can’t even say that and they’re still deflecting the responsibility of keeping safe onto women in the most straw clutching way.

Whatifitallgoesright · 02/10/2021 19:42

So if we don't trust a man who 'identifies' as a woman we're bigots but if trust a police officer we're being naive. Okay.

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