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Conditions at toddlers dads place

21 replies

Startingagainagain · 01/10/2021 14:55

Hi all
Hoping for some advice, experiences or happy to be told I’m being too precious.
Me and my ex share a 15 month old.
He now lives in a flat with his brother.
The flat is a upside down layout with the living room upstairs, all open plan. 2 bedrooms.
They smoke inside the flat, in every room and it is generally very unclean and untidy with workout equipment and tools from their work left around. Looks like a contractors shared house kind of thing.
They have a doubly incontinent cat also, so there is a smell and dishes of cat food everywhere.
My little girl also seems to be allergic to cat fur.
There is no baby proofing and I struggle to see how this could be done to a reasonable standard.
Brother is a heavy cannabis user, I believe they are both doing this at night now though.
They are very loud, have a had noise complaints, and brother stays up until 4/5am working out and generally being loud. (Above where the bedrooms are). Ex seems to have adopted this single contractors lifestyle.
My little girl was a horrific sleeper but is currently in her own bedroom doing really well and having a decent nap during the day.
Ex doesn’t think that any kind of routine is necessary and would not support any kind of routine (it’s pretty loose to be honest but works having a round abouts time for meals and a decent nap and she is quite a high energy baby and gets fussy)
I want to support their relationship and have no bad feelings towards him but I am worried about my child’s well-being if he was to go there but not sure if I can stop this.
He has parental rights.
I am happy to have him in my home and he is no threat to me and she loves him. But he struggles without support and believes his brother would be a good help, absolutely untrue. I am worried my baby would end up hurt from not being supervised properly.
Any advice welcome please

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/10/2021 15:30

No a chance in hell any baby of mine would be going there - or child of any age.

He can take you to court if he wants this.

starrynight87 · 01/10/2021 15:36

Sounds dangerous to me, would need taking further.

Comedycook · 01/10/2021 15:38

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

No a chance in hell any baby of mine would be going there - or child of any age.

He can take you to court if he wants this.

Agree
GianaSister · 01/10/2021 15:40

No, no, no, no, no.

You’d be in a more difficult position if you weren’t amicable and refused to have him in your home, but you are, and you do. So he can see her there if he wants to maintain a relationship.

Whybirdwhy · 01/10/2021 15:43

Agree with all of the sbove

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/10/2021 15:45

How do you know about the conditions inside? Can you take pictures? Even a "awww isn't she cute" and get a wide shot.

Getyourownback · 01/10/2021 15:52

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

No a chance in hell any baby of mine would be going there - or child of any age.

He can take you to court if he wants this.

Yup. You’re not being precious to not want your kid breathing in day and weed smoke, crushed under workout gear or walking through catshit, just to see a father who has no interest in her best interests by maintaining her routine.
diamondpony80 · 01/10/2021 16:02

I think a court would be very supportive of your position if they knew the conditions your child was being brought into.

I know you probably don't want to go down that route, but if he refuses to improve the situation and doesn't want to come around to yours, you might not be left with much choice.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 16:06

I agree I would absolutely not want my baby to go there but I really don't know what legal standing you have
Up to now I imagine he hasn't done anything wrong 🤔
I think you need to get expert advice asap.

I guess if she does have to go, you could call in claims they are smoking pot and hope he gets caught and that could give you some back up? I I just don't know op but I'd be feeling like you do right now :(

Startingagainagain · 01/10/2021 17:05

Thanks for the nice replies. Just feeling stuck, he was great until covid and he’s been sucked into the conspiracy wormhole and he’s a different person now and I just struggle so much to communicate with him, he isn’t a bad dad in the sense that he interacts with her really well and has good intentions but it’s just not safe there and his brother is a complete idiot

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Startingagainagain · 01/10/2021 17:08

I know what the flat is like because I have been inside there recently, and I seen it after they had been cleaning all day apparently so I dread to think. We aren’t on bad terms and I wanted it to stay that way but I’m not having her be in harms way and getting back a baby who’s probably been hurt, exposed to cat faeces and probably won’t sleep because she’s been up until midnight, left to fall asleep infront of the tv and not having any naps because they want her to lay in Hmm

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JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 17:09

What would he do if you just said no she isn't staying but that he is welcome to see her set days a week No overnights though

Startingagainagain · 01/10/2021 19:07

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend do you mean at my house or his place?

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GianaSister · 01/10/2021 19:35

[quote Startingagainagain]@JasonMomoasgirlfriend do you mean at my house or his place?[/quote]
I’m not that poster, but at your place. What would he say?

Startingagainagain · 01/10/2021 20:46

@GianaSister he would want to be here and have her there

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DollyPartBaked · 01/10/2021 20:49

Don't let her go.

LorenzoVonMatterhorn · 01/10/2021 20:49

[quote Startingagainagain]@GianaSister he would want to be here and have her there[/quote]
What does that mean?

And op, if he cannot keep her safe as he is lazy and on drugs, he isnt a good dad. Raise your standards.

endofagain · 01/10/2021 20:51

You must tell your health visitor all of this. They will support you and document your concerns.

user1470132907 · 01/10/2021 21:31

Absolutely no way! He may be great with her when she’s bigger but no way in hell would she be going there

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 01/10/2021 21:34

It is not a safe environment for any child.
Stay strong & protect her.

Siriisatwat · 01/10/2021 21:39

My dd is the same age and there’s no chance she would be going into an environment like that.

I sounds extremely unsafe. I would be a nervous wreck all the time she was there.

I’d tell him to visit her at your hospital place.

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