to think that every Labour MP should expect to be asked if they think that it's transphobic to say that women have cervices. And have a decent answer.

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This seems to be the elephant in the room for the party at the moment, but, both times I've heard MPs asked about it, they flounder around as though they've never considered it.
Rachel Reeves seems to be an intelligent woman, didn't she have an inkling that this would come up? And Starmer, fobbing it off like it's not a serious issue?
What is moving things along is that the media have a short snappy phrase that only requires a yes/no answer and (hopefully) there's going to be a lot more MPs asked. Perhaps they could prepare a decent answer?

Why is this confined to Labour MPs if you consider the question so important / fundamental?

It shouldn't be confined to Labout MPs. If every single MP were to be forced to answer this question on the record, I strongly suspect that almost all Tory and DUP MPs would be falling over themselves to show they know the difference between male and female, and almost all MPs from every other political party would be mumbling and looking at their shoes and saying 'It's complicated'. Labour, Green, LibDem, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Sinn Fein - are there any others? As far as I know they're all TWAW, TMAM, NBPAV and Stonewalled to the max.

It's all very, very depressing.

I'd like to know of all MP's and politicians in the country where they will protect women's rights, protect single sex spaces and support the use of plain English when discussing anatomy in relation to healthcare.

I'm not sure the above question will provide an answer to the questions I'm interested in, but it will provide an indication.

For those that are gender acolytes then the response may be

Only women, trans men and non binary people that were born women have cervix and that would still be right from a gender perspective.

Perhaps the question needs to be clearer that it relates to sex/biology rather than a belief system as I'm an atheist

But they do have an answer - something like 'that's reducing a complex issue to a single catchphrase' which is actually true. I don't find that answer satisfying but are my views more important than other people's?

I believe that anything that directs away from the focus of stopping male violence including male sexual violence is doing nothing more than distracting from that.

Cervix or no, TWAW or no, Sex or gender, even prisons, schools and medical settings - they all boil right down to male violence and obfuscation of woman/women/female is being used as a diversion tactic to avoid even discussing it by shifting us back to defining terms or groups or individual areas.

So let’s be clear and remove their smoke machine. The question I want all MPs & regional reps to answer is;

”Male violence, including male sexual violence, what are you doing to stop it?”

No-one has a problem with male/man/men terminology, everyone seems quite clear on that and who it refers to.

And male violence is the root of much of societies ills, it’s to the point and avoids the almost twee cosiness of the phrase ‘domestic violence’, or the disguised by an acronym ‘VAWG’, or even the defensiveness ‘on the back foot’ of ‘safe-guarding’.

And it doesn’t require any definition of women at all, because they are #notourcrimes

The problem is male violence, 2words, clear, direct and can’t even be bargained away with NAMALT because the data figures are clear (if reduced slightly by offenders claiming to be ‘women’) that this group commit this amount of crime.

I am sick of having every conversation diverted or twisted or dropped so for me it is clear. as. day. Male Violence - what are you doing to stop it?

Absolutely. They all themselves a govt in waiting. Women need to see what menace awaits them from this bunch of misogynists who can’t bring themselves to recognize a biological woman as a woman.

I am interested in this new Gina Miller true political party where do they stand on truth when it comes to biology? She said she was for democracy so I assume she now accepts Brexit and wants women represented not taxed and not given services?

Absolutely bonkers that this is even a thing. We are denying a biological fact of 33.75 million women who were born with a cervix in this country to protect the feelings of a tentative estimate of 200k-500k people who were either born with a penis and want to feel like a woman or were born with a vagina and want to feel like a man. Why on earth are their feelings a priority over biological fact?

It is not a proportionate response and if I was an MP I would be saying 'Of course women have cervixes and it is not transphobic to ay that but why the fuck are we focussing on this when the country has x, y, z bigger fish to fry?'

@Sacreblue exactly. I responded to a NAMALT men with a 'No it is not all men, but it is mostly men. 96% of the murders in this world are committed by men. This is a problem with men being unable to refrain from violence in comparison to women.'

I got called a misandrist because apparently pointing out fact is far too hurtful to the penis havers very fragile ego.

Well someone else’s ego issues are their’s to work on.

Thanks for sharing that response because it’s giving me thought as to what I could say in response to such an obvious attempt at deflection.

And it probably would depend on who had said it - from someone in a personal capacity I’d reconsider ever spending time with them again, but a politician? Mmm, maybe I’d ask why they are so invested in keeping male violence.

And all the Tories. They are actually in charge, we shouldn’t let them off the hook.

“I strongly suspect that almost all Tory and DUP MPs would be falling over themselves to show they know the difference between male and female“

I don’t know about this...

In addition, I would like the question 'is it transphobic to say that only men have a penis' to be asked of every politician of all parties.

If a politician wants to defend the concept of lady dick, I would like to hear it.