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How can I help my child study? ADHD and food intolerances ...

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Hemingwayway · 26/09/2021 13:13

My son is in Year 5 and just turned 9 years old (summer born). He is bright but is lagging behind at school because he struggles to maintain concentration and focus. It's not just at school - he is the same when studying with me at home. He can focus on occasion, but he has to really want to.

I am looking for ways to help him. I am reluctant to look into medication because I don't think it would necessarily be right for him; I don't think his struggles are serious enough to warrant it. But I am keen to do what I can for him with diet, exercise, supplements, - basically anything that will help him.

I think there is some link to his gut health. After weaning he had problems with his gut health (white poos, frequent stomach aches). We saw a specialist who carried out tests and identified a Vitamin D deficiency.

He no longer seems to have stomach aches but has less energy and is more lethargic than my other children (getting out of bed in the mornings is a really struggle - I usually have to dress him or we just wouldn't get out of the door). He is also quite fussy around food and prefers white carbs and sugary foods (whether that be from fruit or refined sugar). I know the white carbs will also turn into sugar ....

He sometimes looks pale. We are of Mediterranean heritage and have the thalassemia trait.

Back to the focus and concentration, he can learn something and forget it the next day. It's a struggle for him to maintain knowledge of times tables and spellings. He frequently gets things back to front. We've had an assessment and diagnosis of dyslexia, but I think the dyslexia is a result of his inability to focus and concentrate. He's capable of emotional insight and working out inference beyond his years, and on occasion can work out fairly complex maths problems in his head.

I would love to hear from other parents in similar situations with advice for what might help and any helpful reading and resources please. Thank you

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Hemingwayway · 26/09/2021 13:16

Some supplements I am going to try are:

Vitamin D (possibly upping his dose)
Floradix for iron
Removing refined carbs and sugar from diet
DHA / fish oils

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TheSandgroper · 26/09/2021 13:20

You are not wrong to be thinking of these issues.

Hemingwayway · 26/09/2021 13:21

@TheSandgroper, thank you so much

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MyChemicalMummy · 26/09/2021 13:25

He is struggling though if he is lagging behind, medication was the best thing ever to happen to my son, don't dimiss it before you have ever tried it.

jeaux90 · 26/09/2021 13:25

My DD 12 low on the ASD high on the ADHD. After assessment and much consideration I opted for medication. Specifically, one that she only has to take on the days she is at school.

It has helped her enormously.

MaskingForIt · 26/09/2021 13:26

We've had an assessment and diagnosis of dyslexia, but I think the dyslexia is a result of his inability to focus and concentrate.

Dyslexia isn’t caused by an inability to focus and concentrate, it is a difference in how the brain is wired for reading and writing.

It’s like saying ASD is caused by not being shown love.

ikeepseeingit · 26/09/2021 13:27

Is it that you think he is lacking energy from a bad diet which is making it harder for him to concentrate? Do you think it’s a sensory thing with his food? If his diet is so bad he will only eat sugary foods and no protein it is indeed likely he will be crashing and looking pale throughout the day. Protein will keep him fuller for longer and help stop energy crashes, is there any protein at all he will eat?

I do think that medication is not the devil though. I can understand why you want to sort his diet first, if it is affecting him to this degree, perhaps look into a dietitian that specialises in childhood ADHD and sensory issues.

MyChemicalMummy · 26/09/2021 13:28

Also have you asked him if he wants to try medication? My son couldn't wait to try it at your sons age, because he was struggling more than what we thought he was.

danni0509 · 26/09/2021 13:35

Those above who say their children take meds and it’s been the best thing for them etc, how long until that happened? How long until you noticed a difference?

Ds (7) has a severe adhd diagnosis (aswell as autism) he’s taking methylphenidate x 3 a day (third week) and honestly he’s no different at home at all. I’ve had a terrible weekend with him and it was our last option to put him on meds and we’ve relied on it working..

Sorry @Hemingwayway to gate crash your thread, fish oil, Zinc and magnesium are good supplements for adhd after all my research over the years x

RavingAnnie · 26/09/2021 13:38

ADHD is the most treatable "mental health condition" (put in brackets for a reason - it's obviously a neurodevelopmental condition but I'm comparing the effectiveness across the spectrum of mental health). And from what you have written he sounds like he's really struggling so don't dismiss the medication. Have a watch of this:

In terms of other strategies of dealing with ADHD either alongside or instead of medication. The most effective is aerobic exercise. Every morning is best.

Also look at his ferritin levels as low ferritin causes ADHD symptoms and is often like in children diagnosed with ADHD (plus you say he's pale). You want to get it at least mid range, not just in range.

Obviously a healthy diet will help any condition but won't "treat" ADHD.

RavingAnnie · 26/09/2021 13:39

BTW There's been lots of research into fish oils but that research has now shown there's no benefit.

Backhometothenorth · 26/09/2021 13:40

I find the biggest improvements have been epa/dha supplements, no artificial colours/ flavours/ sweeteners (particularly e150 which makes dd white as a sheet) and a high fibre diet.

RavingAnnie · 26/09/2021 13:42

@danni0509

Those above who say their children take meds and it’s been the best thing for them etc, how long until that happened? How long until you noticed a difference?

Ds (7) has a severe adhd diagnosis (aswell as autism) he’s taking methylphenidate x 3 a day (third week) and honestly he’s no different at home at all. I’ve had a terrible weekend with him and it was our last option to put him on meds and we’ve relied on it working..

Sorry @Hemingwayway to gate crash your thread, fish oil, Zinc and magnesium are good supplements for adhd after all my research over the years x

See if he can try a different medication. Different meds work for different people - there are a variety of stimulant and non stimulant meds, extended release and immediate release. And unfortunately there are a small proportion of ADHDers that meds don't work for but I would want to be trying all of them before deciding that.
trashcanjunkie · 26/09/2021 13:42

I have adhd and (among other things) IBS and I have started taking prebiotics and probiotics and they’ve helped my gut health as well as concentration.

jeaux90 · 26/09/2021 13:44

@danni0509

Those above who say their children take meds and it’s been the best thing for them etc, how long until that happened? How long until you noticed a difference?

Ds (7) has a severe adhd diagnosis (aswell as autism) he’s taking methylphenidate x 3 a day (third week) and honestly he’s no different at home at all. I’ve had a terrible weekend with him and it was our last option to put him on meds and we’ve relied on it working..

Sorry @Hemingwayway to gate crash your thread, fish oil, Zinc and magnesium are good supplements for adhd after all my research over the years x

You may need to try different doses or different types. I found DD12 (she started meds at 11) was having a massive come down off one and was losing her shit early evening. Couple of changes later and we have one that works really well.
lubeybooby · 26/09/2021 13:47

I would honestly get the poor love on the correct medication for the sake of his schooling and indeed, entire future life - the outlook is so much better with the rights meds and support.

I have adhd and absolutely top notch levels of vitamins and minerals, excellent gut health, it took me over 5 years to improve everything to peak levels and honestly? Doesn't make much difference focus wise, and by the time you've done that, he'll be in higher levels of secondary school

Brain chemicals and structure are different in adhd patients. It needs properly addressing, understanding and supporting, not vitamins

Kings College London has an excellent free course about it all on futurelearn

bumpertobumper · 26/09/2021 14:13

Sorry foe the hijack, but does anyone have any suggestions about how to go about getting a child screened for adhd. I think ds who is in early teens may have it, have approached school sen dept and they have been pretty dismissive saying there wouldn't really be any meaningful adjustments for him at school if he did have it and cahms waiting list so long etc.
I can manage a private process but don't know where to to begin and how to ensure that whatever path we go down will be recognised by the school.
Any experience/suggestions welcome.
Thanks and sorry again for the hijack, but seems to be some knowledgeable posters on this thread.
Am noting the info about supplements too.

BlankTimes · 26/09/2021 14:19

This is a good overview of having a child with ADHD, although IMO it applies generally to neurodiversity.

english.emmaclit.com/2021/03/18/lucine-and-enzo/

BlankTimes · 26/09/2021 14:21

Hopefully clicky link

english.emmaclit.com/2021/03/18/lucine-and-enzo/

RavingAnnie · 26/09/2021 14:24

@bumpertobumper

Sorry foe the hijack, but does anyone have any suggestions about how to go about getting a child screened for adhd. I think ds who is in early teens may have it, have approached school sen dept and they have been pretty dismissive saying there wouldn't really be any meaningful adjustments for him at school if he did have it and cahms waiting list so long etc. I can manage a private process but don't know where to to begin and how to ensure that whatever path we go down will be recognised by the school. Any experience/suggestions welcome. Thanks and sorry again for the hijack, but seems to be some knowledgeable posters on this thread. Am noting the info about supplements too.
"there wouldn't be any meaningful adjustments for him"!?!? They are not doing their jobs properly then!

Find out if you have any local groups for children with ADHD or autism, parents on those groups should know of good local assessors who meet the NHS requirements.

With ADHD remember to factor in the costs not just of the assessment but the titration onto meds which can often be significantly more.

adhdpunchbag · 26/09/2021 14:29

If your child was slightly short sighted would you refuse to get them glasses so they could see clearly? Would you think that it's not that bad and that they should learn to cope without them?

Or would you take them to an opticians, get them kitted out so they can see and remove the barriers to getting an education like their NT peers?

SAH07 · 26/09/2021 14:35

My son was diagnosed in year 4, we didn't medicate straight away, even the paediatrician said not to. I was against it at first, there is such a stigma attached to it and some bad press about it. About a year later we noticed that he was struggling more at school so decided to give it a go. He is on his second type now, it is very much trial and error. He notices the difference when he has gone to school and forgotten to take his medication. We often have breaks during the holidays

Hemingwayway · 26/09/2021 14:44

Listening to the comments about medication. How would I begin to start the process of seeking a diagnosis and potentially looking into meds?

We could possibly go private if it would speed the process up. He is already in Y5 and this is an important year academically. I'm concerned about upheaval and endless appointments

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FlyingPandas · 26/09/2021 14:49

Another one saying don’t dismiss medication-speak to a paediatrician and discuss your options.

My now 17yo was DXed with severe adhd (inattentive) at 10. Methylphenidate was a disaster for him but atomoxetine has worked really well. It has a cumulative effect so took a few months to really see the benefits but well worth it.

I’m not saying don’t consider dietary changes or vitamin supplements-I have found fish oil supplements to be very beneficial for DS alongside a good multi vitamin- but please don’t just dismiss medication as undesirable.