Rather than a maximum spend for petrol, we need a minimum

[KingsleyShacklebolt]

Lots of talk of rationing petrol to deal with the people who are panic buying.

I would suggest an alternative approach - a minimum spend. I filled my car yesterday, it's a big mum bus MPV thing so takes £60 - £70 of diesel to fill up. And before anyone asks yes I did need to fill it, it was well into the red.

But the woman in front of me and the man adjacent spent less than £10 each. So their car was clearly not empty.

So why not have a minimum spend? Say £20 or £30? It would stop people topping up every couple of days "just in case". Would stop people filling jerry cans. People aren't going to keep filling up jerry cans or topping up every day if they know that their couple of litres is going to cost £30.

@timesachangin

OP why don't you just say "when I wrote my OP I hadn't considered the fact that some people are too poor to put in more than a tenner at a time and I now see my suggestion wouldn't work". You made an honest mistake born out of privilege, it's okay to admit that and move on with a little bit more compassion and understanding than you had to begin with.

You're quite right, but I don't think OP is able to compute this

I don't normally put more than 20 quid in and I drive my own car for a living, approx 600 miles a week.

I see anything more than half a tank as just driving round unesscessary additional weight.

Maybe Pinkrollercoaster has to get a separate receipt for each visit, some companies have weird rules sometimes

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

You don't have a right to determine how much of someone else's money they have to spend in order to satisfy your preferences. Why is it okay for you to maintain your own freedom of choice but dent others theirs?

I've no issue with people keeping their cars topped up. A lot of people have to drive long distances for work/have other commitments and they cannot risk being stuck hundreds of miles from home with no fuel.

Instead of blaming people for trying to protect themselves, blame successive governments and big business who chose not to invest in training/wages/decent working conditions for our population and instead relied on exploited cheap labour from abroad.

100% this in spades! ^

I have said this multiple times this past few days, PAY BRITISH PEOPLE PROPER WAGES AND TRAIN THEM TO BE LORRY DRIVERS. Stop depending on foreign labour. It's fucking farcical that the Government are now considering relaxing Brexit rules to allow the drivers from other countries to come over for a few months to help us. Quite understandably they have laughed at them and told them to fuck off. Oh NOOOOO!!! Are the companies/the Government going to actually have to pay British workers proper wages now?! What a shame!

And like you say, no-one has a right to tell someone they cannot top up the petrol tank if they used even just a quarter of it. It's a free country. And the Government AND the media have started all this shit. Don't blame the British public for wanting to protect themselves.

Like fuck will anyone be telling me when I can and cannot fill my car with petrol.

@timesachangin

OP why don't you just say "when I wrote my OP I hadn't considered the fact that some people are too poor to put in more than a tenner at a time and I now see my suggestion wouldn't work". You made an honest mistake born out of privilege, it's okay to admit that and move on with a little bit more compassion and understanding than you had to begin with.

This. @KingsleyShacklebolt are you not going to apologise for your faux pas? Or don't you care enough?

It's bad enough that you posted this dire thread, and have been so horribly obnoxious on it, but at least try and save a BIT of face, and admit you were wrong.

I would be so embarrassed if I were you, and the fact you are refusing to acknowledge you are wrong is proving what a massively privelged life you have, and how rude, and ignorant, and badly educated you are.

Getting belligerent and doubling down on your suggestion, when people point out that a minimum spend would disadvantage many, was not your only option.

Why is everyone demanding an apology? Who am I supposed to be apologising to? Some randomers on MN who have got the hump because they don't like what they've read?

If I went about demanding apologies from everyone who posted threads I disagreed with we'd be here a long time.

@KingsleyShacklebolt

Why is everyone demanding an apology? Who am I supposed to be apologising to? Some randomers on MN who have got the hump because they don't like what they've read?

If I went about demanding apologies from everyone who posted threads I disagreed with we'd be here a long time.

Apologise to yourself, for showing yourself up so badly.

@KingsleyShacklebolt

Why is everyone demanding an apology? Who am I supposed to be apologising to? Some randomers on MN who have got the hump because they don't like what they've read?

If I went about demanding apologies from everyone who posted threads I disagreed with we'd be here a long time.

Oh dear....... ....

If you really SERIOUSLY cannot see why you should apologise and admit you were wrong, then you really are as obtuse and badly educated and ignorant as I and many others suspected. And there is no hope for you.

Surely the fact that the vast, VAST majority of people disagree with you should tell you that you are WRONG.

Hope you are enjoying your nasty, toxic thread.

l don't normally put more than 20 quid in and I drive my own car for a living, approx 600 miles a week.

If I did 600 miles a week and only put 20 quids worth in at a time, I would have to do it seven times a week.

Sod that.

I don't care if you apologise. I'm just sad such a viewpoint exists.

Enjoy your £70 worth of fuel.

It's just a goady thread, it has to be, you wouldn't fill up a gas guzzler and then start a thread moaning about panic buying if you weren't a GF

Why is everyone demanding an apology? Who am I supposed to be apologising to? Some randomers on MN who have got the hump because they don't like what they've read?

If I went about demanding apologies from everyone who posted threads I disagreed with we'd be here a long time.

Well, we had to listen to your garbage opinion, Ms Random Big Mum Bus MPV Thing.

You’ve killed everyone’s brain cells, so thanks for that.

Toodle pips. Take little Timothy, Allegra and Hugo for their Pizza Express now and save us from more crap.

I'm another who doesn't care if you apologise. I can't imagine you would, tbh - you seem very blinkered.

I could be equally judgey and reply that I can't believe people exist who still don't know that not everyone in the UK lives in England, but there you go.

You really need to quit whilst you're behind, OP. You're not covering yourself in any glory here.

What a stupid idea!

How incredibly selfish of you to fill up your car given there are clearly supply issues. It is right and proper that people were just adding a little extra to the tank to tide themselves over, hopefully temporarily!

OP why don't you just say "when I wrote my OP I hadn't considered the fact that some people are too poor to put in more than a tenner at a time and I now see my suggestion wouldn't work". You made an honest mistake born out of privilege, it's okay to admit that and move on with a little bit more compassion and understanding than you had to begin with.

Exactly. It's not even about an apology. I couldn't give a shiny shite if OP apologises. It's just about the ability to admit when you're wrong, especially having had that fact established a million times over to the point that I can't be the only getting second hand embarrassment for her. But OP hasn't got the character for that.

I know someone like this in real life. He's very opinionated and often runs his mouth (usually "coming from a place of privilege" like the OP here) and when the bleeding obvious flaws in his thinking are pointed out, he just keeps doubling down. Once he's set his stall out, he doesn't possess the strength of character to admit he was wrong or the open mindedness to alter his opinion. So instead he just carries on, looking more and more stupid by the minute rather than "show weakness" by admitting he was wrong. Absolutely pathetic.

@Athinginitself

Only on mumsnet would people not understand that not everyone has the cost of a full tank of Petol lying around. Some people need a car for whatever reason but will be filling up shift by shift/journey by journey as that's all that they can afford.

This^

Over privileged and lacking in empathy, shockingly thoughtless suggestion.

How many kids do you have that you need a mumbus/ otherwise known as a gas guzzler?

Most mum taxis type cars are very fuel efficient, it's big saloons and sports cars which are the gas guzzlers.

@HarebrightCedarmoon

Most mum taxis type cars are very fuel efficient, it's big saloons and sports cars which are the gas guzzlers.

Really?!

What are these fuel efficient mum taxis?

Adding the word ‘mum’ doesn’t make them fuel efficient.

@KingsleyShacklebolt

Not on a wind up. Just trying to propose an idea which might address the panic-buying which is affecting everyone.

Maybe they should ban people filling up "mum buses".

OP said her car was a 'big mum bus'. A 'mum car' (God I'm cringing even typing this) would, I imagine, be a smaller and consequently more fuel efficient vehicle. Not sure about a mum taxi. I'm no expert.

Me, I just drive a car. A dad would not look out of place driving my car.

I call mine a mum taxi, of course DH drives it as well. Most 1.6L - 2L vehicles from the last 5 or possibly more years are not "gas guzzlers". Just because they might be 4x4 it doesn't mean it has a 5 litre V8 under the bonnet.

it's a big mum bus MPV

YABU right there. No need to even read the rest of your overpriviledged post.