To not send any handover notes?

[Terribleluck]

I was made redundant (via email) last Friday. He called me on Teams all the time, so he obviously could have had that conversation with me. It's arguable if it was a true redundancy or him just trying to rid of me. I only worked there for 5 months, the company was/is a total mess and they lost customers and thus some income. I came in on a senior management role, and was to some extent mislead. Again we can argue all day about it, but it is what it is.

That sucks OP.

Personally, I would make notes just so the next person can see you knew your stuff. It can sometimes be good for your reputation - I've had people "know" me from handover and training guides I forgot making in temporary roles years ago - and it can be good later on for remembering examples for interviews.

So you could think in those terms rather than anything else. Equally I'm sure a lot of people would say fuck them and leave them to it

If you had only been there for five months, they don’t need to make you redundant anyway, they can terminate for any reason so long as they follow the roper process regarding notice.

If you are still employed and they want you to write notes, then you need to write notes. Why they want handover notes when you have only been there five months anyway is lost on me, but I would recommend you are professional and carry out any reasonable request (which this is).

Ideally you should have meetings for handover. The person picking up your role makes the notes.
You have a sign off from them that they’re happy ( as the situation allows ) with tackling the role in your absence.

He hasn't asked for notes BTW, I only think it's what a decent worker would do. I've been put on gardening leave with immediate effect

if the role is redundant - what is being handed over excactly?

If you're on gardening leave - he's asked you not to work. Handing over a job that he has stated doesn't exist?

use the time to start your job search.

The notes would be for my boss who will take over my resppnsio

No notes to pass over. The role has been made redundant.

If they have to hire someone to do your job then it's unlawful redundancy.

I wouldn't be inclined to help them out at all tbh. Nobody's asked for notes, don't offer.

If your role is redundant then surely there is nobody to handover to?
Making you redundant via email is totally unprofessional, yes they can ‘get away’ with not following a proper process as you have less than 2 years service, but that doesn’t mean they should. I would probably be inclined to extend the same (lack of) professionalism to them and put zero effort into the handover/notice period.

No, gardening leave means you're done. You don't do anything at all. Nothing. That's what gardening leave is.

Just read your update that you're on garden leave and he hasn’t asked for any handover notes. I definitely don’t think you should do anything then, why go above and beyond for an employer who has treated you so poorly. Use your time to look for others positions, update your CV and prep for interviews, not to do additional unasked for work.

If You've been made redundant then the job has ceased to exist therefore nobody will need handover notes.

@IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves

No notes to pass over. The role has been made redundant.

If they have to hire someone to do your job then it's unlawful redundancy.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You weren’t made redundant as you have less than two years service, which is a requirement of redundancy. Even if you had the correct redundancy process has not been followed.
I find it hard to believe you’re senior management.
Sounds like you were sacked. After only 5 months I doubt your handover notes would be important to the business.
Just move on and better luck next time.

No notes. You've left. You are not going to use your free time to write notes.

If he wants any he should have thought of that. I've made notes before and I'm pretty sure they were never looked at.

Depends whether you need a reference from your boss.

Garden leave prevents the person working for themselves or anyone else. They still need to be available to the current employer. So while I wouldn’t go out of my way to write a handover, they can still ask you to or ask questions and get information.
We had this when a colleague was leaving, we weren’t allowed to contact him but if we needed anything from him we could ask HR/the manager and they would get in contact.

Nah. I wouldn't.

Yes, believe it or not I was senior management, my contract said so. I obviously need a reference but I'm assuming they'd give one regardless? They're not blaming me for the the loss of clients and running behind finding new ones. He said "they have to cut their expenditure and reorganise how they work".

No definitely not.

Concentrate on your CV, LinkedIn and speaking to recruitment people

He also quotes the survival of the company, so I do believe him. I wouldn't write super specific notes just the general gist of what happened on that day.

@ProfessorPeach

You weren’t made redundant as you have less than two years service, which is a requirement of redundancy. Even if you had the correct redundancy process has not been followed. I find it hard to believe you’re senior management. Sounds like you were sacked. After only 5 months I doubt your handover notes would be important to the business. Just move on and better luck next time.

You can be made redundant at any point of your employment. You have to have worked there for two years to qualify for redundancy rights such as a redundancy payment.

I ended up sending a quick email and wrote three bullet points. I really wanted to send him something a bit more snarky, but couldn't make myself do it.

@VillanellesOrangeCoat
Yes that’s right but without redundancy pay or any redundancy rights it’s not redundancy! It’s termination of employment.