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To think this landlady is ridiculously tight

62 replies

coffeerevelsrock · 25/09/2021 09:55

I have neighbours at a right angle to me who are tenants. A large tree at the back of their house was overhanging my drive and the pavement and making both unusable until they finally cut it back. Ivy was growing up my wall from their garden and starting to cover one of my bedroom windows. It's finally been cut back and is now still on my wall but dead, so not getting worse. When I spoke to them about these matters they were frustrated with their LL as she never checks on them and they have 3 broken fence panels that border my drive - they couldn't be fixed until the tree was sorted as it blocked access to them.

Now the ll is still refusing to fix their fence as she insists I have shared responsibility. I have looked at the land registry documents and it doesn't mention who is responsible for each boundary. I understand in this case it is normal to share but in previous years that fence has been fixed by the ll of that property, though the house has been sold since so it was a different person. The tree never got out of hand in those days either. She has emailed me one of those sheets you get when you but a house with tick boxes filled in by hand saying it's a shared boundary, but that's not a legally binding thing is it? Surely it's only the deeds that show it definitely?

She has quoted me £90 to fix the fence, so my share would be £45 but I really don't have this at the moment. It's been an expensive summer and I'm saving as much as I can having dipped into savings. I don't want a fence there - it's just my drive and doesn't need privacy from my side, though tenants obviously want it as it's their back garden but it's not completely exposed anyway. There's no legal requirement to have a fence anyway and I don't want to pay for something I don't want.

Also, when they cut the tree back I was having my bathroom done and had a skip on the drive. It was too big for the bathroom stuff and I planned to fill the rest with shit I've needed to get rid of for years but when the tenants asked I allowed them to put the tree waste there as I felt bad for them. I feel like that was my contribution to the whole thing, not that I have to make one. I keep all trees on my property under control and don't really want to pay for others as well.

Shouldn't she just pay the £90 to keep her lovely tenants happy? I feel like I feel more guilty about them than she does. I also feel like she could get the dead ivy off my house too rather than trying to push this. It's wrong priorities imo. This has gone on for months now.

OP posts:
QuestionEverythingOrBeASheep · 25/09/2021 14:28

I don't know why I will need to pay for anything?
*You don't, it's not really your problem but you are choosing to get involved.

There's no document saying it's my boundary.
*Then it's not your responsibility.

Yes, I know I had no agreement with her re the skip, but she had told them they needed to sort the tree or pay for it themselves and they were at a loss.

  • Their problem with their landlord, not yours.

They clearly didn't WANTto pay for anything and felt aggrieved at having to do the work. I felt I couldn't say no.

  • They didn't want to pay like you don't want to pay now. You could say no as it wasn't your problem but you decided to be kind which has backfired.

I felt like they were hinting I should have been cutting the tree back, but it was huge and I don't have the tools.

  • It was their tree, nothing to do with you. You need to be more assertive. If it's not your tree and it's going over a pavement, report it to the council like I have numerous times and the council contractors do the work. It's not your tree!

Also, why should I have been keeping it off the pavement?!
*No one said you should. It's the councils job if only someone would inform them. There's a great APP for reporting things like this to the correct department called: FixmyStreet. Download it and report it in future.

I know their relationship is nothing to do with me but I kind of feel stuck in the middle.

  • You feel this way because you allowed yourself to get involved. Step back and away from it as it's nothing to do with you. Just say to your neighbours when they 'try' to involve you 'I'm sorry I can't get involved, it's really nothing to do with me. Please sort it out DIRECTLY with YOUR Landlord'.

Simple.

RincewindsHat · 25/09/2021 14:36

@Kneesaregood

The previous owner doing the work was doing you a favour btw, not setting legal precedent!
This x 1 million.
Blanketsnpamphlets · 25/09/2021 14:43

It would be an extremely unusual tenancy agreement if the tenants weren’t liable for maintenance, so your ivy problems are with them not the landlord.

You don’t have to pay for the fence since you clearly don’t want to but pretty much every person I know that lives in semi or terraced goes halves for these things so YABU there. Just because she was being unreasonable not to prune the tree doesn’t mean you’re not being equally unreasonable here.

Whentheydontmeanwhattheysay · 25/09/2021 14:56

@findmeaholiday

Why on earth come on AIBU if quite clearly you're absolutely definitely not BU?

Even though you absolutely definitely are

😂
Hiddenmnetter · 25/09/2021 18:30

If she wants a fence you can let her put up a fence. If course you won't get any say in it, but if I were you I'd just say I'm not bothered by the fence, leave it or fix it as you please, it's on you.

CiaoForNiao · 25/09/2021 18:36

I have ivy growing over the fence from next door. If I don't keep on top of it it would grow over my back door and up into my windows. So I keep it cut back as much as I can on my side. Why would my neighbour be responsible for something in my garden Confused.

Dogdaystrouble · 25/09/2021 18:59

What does YOUR tick box boundary document state?

My old neighbors....if relationships could have been mended or saved by contributing £45 I would have paid straight away, why fall out with otherwise good neighbors or their landlords.

We have a neighbors bush overhanging our garden by almost 2ft when we moved in....we simply paid £5 for a pair of secetures (sorry spelling...garden scissor things lol) and cut it back. Her plants grow through the fence....I use them to cut them back. She has some bindweed which she likes the look of....as soon as it comes over or through the fence I cut it. Simple. It would get out of control by the time I have complained to her and she's organised someone to come fix what I sort in a fraction of the time.

Newkitchen123 · 25/09/2021 19:12

What are peoples thoughts on conifers growing over a boundary. Who should look after that? The owner or the one whose garden it has grown into? If it's been left, whose problem is it?

sjxoxo · 25/09/2021 19:24

@coffeerevelsrock

Well, it's an eye-opener to me. I'm a nightmare why exactly? So everyone on here lets their plants go out of control on other people's property and says tough shit if they haven't the ability or tools to deal with it. I was mortified when I realised my ivy was going onto another neighbour's house and got it cut back at once. But, yes, I'm a nightmare.

And I'm out of order for 'letting' someone's ivy grow across my window?! I had no way of seeing there was ivy there until it appeared in front of my window, when I did take a 'nanosecond' to knock and tell them. I swear some people want to come here just to tell people how UR they are whatever.

Yes, I should probably just pay the £45 but I do think as a ll I'd look after my tenants better than trying to wring some costs out of a neighbour for months. I think the tree does cause issues with the fence and once I start paying I'll be liable for ever more but yes it's all my fault.

I think £45 is very reasonable.. I would be relieved it’s not much more. What pp are trying to say os that when plants cross over into your property it is then your responsibility to chop them as you like. Are you expecting your neighbours to come and do that for you?? IMO that is unreasonable & you’re in for lots of let downs wherever you have a garden! If you have outside space any tools and equipment are an additional cost/effort and you should consider this when choosing a property. For example if you don’t want to own a lawnmower or pay a gardener to mow a lawn, you need a property without one! xo
NoSquirrels · 26/09/2021 08:21

@Newkitchen123

What are peoples thoughts on conifers growing over a boundary. Who should look after that? The owner or the one whose garden it has grown into? If it's been left, whose problem is it?
Depends. Ideally the ones whose land it is on would have been maintaining the trees. But if they are overgrown and need cutting back on your side, just do it UNLESS doing so would destabilise the trees.

Overgrown confuses usually won’t show much regrow is the usual issue so it may look ugly for a long time!

underneaththeash · 26/09/2021 08:36

If the boundary ownership isn't marked on the deeds - it's shared and you need to pay half. It's irrelevant what happened in the past.

Maybe the landlord can't easily afford it either?

Outbutnotoutout · 26/09/2021 08:42

You don't have to pay anything

You don't have to have a fence up, it's not law...

If they want a fence let them pay for it!!

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