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Modern Day Slavery

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AutumnOrange · 13/09/2021 10:01

I am doing a Speaking and Listening assessment on human trafficking / modern day slavery.
Have been researching car washes and nail salons. What would happen to these people if these places suddenly shut down? Do they simply get moved on to the next location?
If they rescued what happens to them? Are they deported? Do they remain here? What back up is there to ensure they don’t end up there again?
I am finding it really interesting finding out so much about this that I didn’t realise but I am getting overwhelmed with all the information. Does anyone have any specific good websites to focus on or just an opinion? I am only allowed to speak for 10 minutes but struggling to see how that is possible!
Flowers for anyone who can offer advice or who has had experience

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purpledagger · 13/09/2021 10:53

I suspect many of them probably just get moved on, by the slave gangs.

An episode of 'can't pay we'll take it away' featured a brothel just down the road from my home (who knew??) and the pimps and women just packed up and left.

I think it's probably difficult for these victims to speak up because they may have been trafficked into the country (so are here illegally) and there is no guarantee they will be allowed to stay. Also, the traffickers can often track down the families of the victims back overseas.

Time4change2018 · 13/09/2021 11:03

If the council / police close down these establishment I imagine they are meant to offer support those those victims of Modern Day Slavery. Those under 18 can be referred to the National Referral Mechanism but those over 18 have to agree to be referred where support can be offered.
Maybe have a look up of the NRM

trinibrit · 13/09/2021 18:43

The Salvation Army has a government contract to provide assistance and has a lot of info on their website to help answer some of these questions.

CovidCorvid · 13/09/2021 18:47

We had a high profile case in our village where there was a group of modern slaves being held at a property. Afaik the police and social services were heavily involved in supporting them, they were put in emergency housing. Longer term I have no idea what happened to them but they were definitely moved away from gang masters.

Dinkydonk55 · 13/09/2021 18:53

@trinibrit

The Salvation Army has a government contract to provide assistance and has a lot of info on their website to help answer some of these questions.
Yes this The government have a special programme I think the people who are ‘rescued’ get accommodation and support for 45 days or something to enable them to recover and decide what they want to do eg. go back to where they’re from or whatever
Dinkydonk55 · 13/09/2021 18:53

Yes. The National referral mechanism - that’s it

respecttheforum · 13/09/2021 18:55

@Time4change2018

If the council / police close down these establishment I imagine they are meant to offer support those those victims of Modern Day Slavery. Those under 18 can be referred to the National Referral Mechanism but those over 18 have to agree to be referred where support can be offered. Maybe have a look up of the NRM
The NRM applies to adult victims.
Smorethanthis · 13/09/2021 18:56

www.medaille-trust.org.uk/

Smorethanthis · 13/09/2021 18:59

www.medaille-trust.org.uk/case-studies

respecttheforum · 13/09/2021 19:02

What happens to victims really depends on what they want, where they are from and what risk they are at.

They will always be moved away from the area they were held if in the NRM.
They could still be at risk though and some end up with new identities and in witness protection.

Some will want to go to their home countries if they're not UK nationals but most won't/can't.
Some will have been sold by their families, many of the women who have been exploited as sex workers will not be able to return because of the shame on their families. Also, they could be at risk from traffickers by returning.

Those who want/need to stay can make claims for asylum/leave to remain.
They are often unsuccessful.

It's a really shit system.

GnomeOrMistAndIceGuy · 13/09/2021 19:08

Hi OP,
I work in an inner city school in the North East which has an unfortunate recent history of grooming gangs, child exploitation, human trafficking, etc. Car washes are a concern to us - many of our Eastern European dads work cash in hand at these and several of these families are mixed up in drugs, including their young sons. Some of my loveliest boys have left our school and since been caught on their bikes transporting drugs around the area. It is gutting. I am also absolutely certain these families get moved around by someone higher up at the drop of a hat. A while back we had a Czech family start their little girl at our school. They bought all the uniform, book bags, etc. and straight away I had a feeling drugs played a part in parents' lives. Despite this, they were nice and seemed excited for their little girl to start school. Two days in, I took a phonecall from a rough voiced Czech woman claiming to be mum, saying the family had decided to move away. She gave a postcode of the "new house" and that was it. Never saw them again. And the postcode turned out to be an industrial estate. Admissions/attendance safeguarding team at the LA couldn't care less. Gypsy family you see. "It's just how they live." Sorry, I could rant about this subject all day; it makes me very cross.

FusciasBright21 · 13/09/2021 19:09

I saw a talk by the founder of this organisation a number of years back, it was really interesting and might be useful for you:

www.unseenuk.org/what-we-do/women-s-safe-house

GnomeOrMistAndIceGuy · 13/09/2021 19:09

*Meant to say, the dad worked at one of these car washes.

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AutumnOrange · 13/09/2021 19:28

Wow - thank you all so much. Fucking hell its horrendous - I mean, I knew it was but what the hell is the solution?
Thank you again so much. No idea how I will manage just 10 minutes on this - I think I really need to narrow it down exactly what I am talking about.
It has been a real education looking at all the many websites - depressing but an education.

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AutumnOrange · 13/09/2021 19:30

The ones who are rescued and then unsuccessful with their asylum claim - what happens? Are they just deported? Surely the whole cycle starts again?

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Stompythedinosaur · 13/09/2021 19:56

I work with kids who have been subject to modern slavery and sometimes human trafficking.

It the short term we try to help kids and trace family members. But it can be very hard as kids have lots of reasons for not being honest. It is very comment for kids to attempt to return to their abusers. Sometimes kids were removed from their families so young they don't know where they came from.

Where the modern slavery involves gang activities and county lines it can be a job to have them viewed as a victim rather than a perpetrator.

I'd be lying if I said there are always good outcomes for the kids despite best efforts being made.

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