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To Think That The Press Have No Understanding About What They Are Reporting Today.

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LuluJakey1 · 07/09/2021 18:39

I am in despair and really angry about Johnson's announcements re: social care today and how badly it is being reported. They are misleading people currently in the card system and those likely to be in it in the next 10-20 years.
As I understand it from what he said, the BBC and The Guardian:
He said - 'no one will pay more than £86,000 for personal care in their lifetime'. This creates an impression that anyone in a home will only pay up to £86,000 towards that care.

Wrong! It actually only covers the nursing care aspect in a care home and what specific personal care a local authority decides you need at home.

Currently, if you require nursing care in a care home, that element is paid for by local authorities at the rate of about £550 a month. From 2023, you will be expected to pay up to £86,000 towards that. No one seems to have spotted it is currently paid for.

Most people do not require full nursing care - they might need dressings changed or particular medicines given or a medical procedure. Very few require a full-time nurse. Most care is carried out by general carers and comes under social care- help dressing, washing etc- that won't be included in this care amount cap- it will be paid for separately by the resident in the home. For example, my aunt (90) requires help to have a shower and her breakfast- that will not be covered- she will be expected to pay for that. My uncle (90) in a care home with dementia has no nursing care so will pay for everything- it is assessed as social care- see below.

According to the BBC, we will have to pay for our 'board and lodgings and other extras in care homes- for example food, renting your bedroom, social care, hair cuts or anything else you choose to have'. So we will still pay almost the whole of care home fees.

It will only apply to anyone who requires care from when the tax starts in 2023- this was said by Johnson, Sunak and Javid directly. If you are already in the system you are stuck on current rules. "This always happens. Someone always misses the start date when a new system is introduced' said Javid.

In effect, anyone with savings and a house to sell will be in the same position they are currently in- at some point it will all be used and sold to pay for care until you are down to your last £20,000. In fact people will be in a worse position- they now have to also pay up to £86,000 of nursing care fees- currently paid by local authorities.

The whole thing is a huge con. MIL rang to say she and FIL are planning to sell up when it looks like they are heading that way- put the £86,000 each aside to pay for their care and buy a small flat. She was convinced a cap had been put on care costs. It hasn't, not at all. It is no reassurance for the vulnerable and elderly.

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Tealightsandd · 09/09/2021 19:34

We ideally want people to live as long and as healthy a life as possible

Then we had better urgently tackle the very serious public health housing and homelessness emergency.

LuluJakey1 · 09/09/2021 19:42

@nettie434

That's absolutely true Tractorandheadphones. I was trying to make the point that the proposals don't help those needing care over the lifetime or for a large proportion of their lives. Most people receiving publicly funded social care are now under 65. To use Lulujakey1's example of someone whose parents live in a £750k house, that house would only buy a few years care in a specialist unit for people with challenging behaviour.
Just to be clear, it is not a specialist unit for challenging behaviour- it is a residential home because she has a genetic condition- not even named it is so rare- she is unable to speak or comprehend beyond the skills of an 8 month old baby, but can walk and is toilet trained. Lacks co-ordination or any sense of danger. Has no awareness of others, or interest in anything and lives in a world of her own. Very undemanding behaviour. Has epilepsy but no other medical issues. Ca n do nothing for herself in terms of looking after herself- not physically incapable but no cognition of life at all so no learning of any skills. Does not require nursing care.

She could be at home but her EHCP states she needs residential provision and will need it all of her life- will never improve.

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