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NHS safeguarding criticised

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donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 22:27

I'm trying to figure out where this news story is on the BBC website. It's about an NHS trust bullying their own children's safeguarding lead for following up staff concerns about children's safeguarding.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-58453250

Now you might say 'its there, you just linked to it' but that's only because Google found it for me (I was surprised I hadn't seen any coverage of this story). I can't get to it from the front page.

It's not in any section- not health or politics or local- that I can see. All other BBC articles have a 'route' to them at the top, this one doesn't. It seems unindexed (at time of writing this).

Anyone see what I'm doing wrong?

[Message from MNHQ: Title of thread has been changed at OP's request]

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LizzieSiddal · 05/09/2021 22:42

I posted on the thread about Sonia, I heard this ruling reported on R4 news this morning at 8am. It was about 3rd from the top, and included a report which mentioned the BBC2 Newsnight investigation into the Tavi. By 9am there was absolutely no mention at all about this ruling!

Somebody put a stop to all reporting about this ruling, at the BBC.
I really want to know who that person is.

GreyhoundG1rl · 05/09/2021 22:43

How sinister Hmm

HoldingTheDoor · 05/09/2021 22:45

I saw it on the site earlier. I can't remember how but I didn't have to go hunting for it.

ForTheTamini · 05/09/2021 22:48

It's on the health page which you can get to in the menu www.bbc.co.uk/news/health in the timeline bit

ForTheTamini · 05/09/2021 22:50

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NHS safeguarding criticised
Lockheart · 05/09/2021 22:54

Somebody put a stop to all reporting about this ruling, at the BBC.

It's on the BBC Health page right now, as another poster has shown. I was reading it this afternoon.

No-one has put a stop to it being reported.

donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 23:02

It's on the health page which you can get to in the menu www.bbc.co.uk/news/health in the timeline bit

You are quite right but I promise it wasn't there when I posted. That's exactly where I looked and the health link wasn't on the article.

I am not suggesting anything sinister- probably just some tweaking of the website was occuring when I happened to find it.

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donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 23:05

Somebody put a stop to all reporting about this ruling, at the BBC.

I'm certainly not saying that. I certainly think it's an important topic which should have a lot higher profile.

The actual trial report is damning about safeguarding at GIDS:

drive.google.com/file/d/1JNpwp5aDrVwAe1VcG6vSxqVRouO1bdZ_/view?usp=drivesdk

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Excelthetube · 05/09/2021 23:06

I find the bbc I ncluding ipayer and sounds is shocking at indexing things.

I like a certain type of drama - it’s never listed in drama. I have to search the name for it.
Someone has listed it in comedy, it could be said it’s both. But it’s more drama, IYSWIM.

but I imagine they have a system which is probably awkward and difficult to use, so it often doesn’t calibrate.

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy

MsFogi · 05/09/2021 23:08

I was amazed that the report didn't make any mention of the Kiera Bell ruling earlier this year which is also about the Tavistock Centre. It's almost as though the BBC doesn't want people to know about the issue - tucking it away in Health!!

JaniceBattersby · 05/09/2021 23:09

BBC news pages are often tailored to the user.

Nobody has put a stop to the reporting. In broad terms, every news site has live analytics that keep the really popular stories at the top of the page. Although there are some tweaks that are made to ensure the BBC keeps to its public service broadcasting remit, largely if loads of people are reading a story then it will be on P1.

I’m a GC feminist and also a journalist. Although I’d love this story to be a huge story, in the grand scheme of things, a woman winning some compo from the NHS for being mistreated is genuinely not a major news event. It’s been covered extensively in the circumstances. There’s really no cover up going on here.

Lockheart · 05/09/2021 23:14

@MsFogi

I was amazed that the report didn't make any mention of the Kiera Bell ruling earlier this year which is also about the Tavistock Centre. It's almost as though the BBC doesn't want people to know about the issue - tucking it away in Health!!
It's not a conspiracy. There is only so much space on the front page and just because you think something is headline news doesn't mean everyone else agrees. Currently, articles about Afghanistan and coronavirus are dominating and likely will for some time yet, and in the short term the news about Sarah Harding will be the headline. The upcoming announcement of social care reforms will also be big news.

On the scale of things, one woman winning a tribunal against the NHS is very very small fry.

donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 23:18

Although I’d love this story to be a huge story, in the grand scheme of things, a woman winning some compo from the NHS for being mistreated is genuinely not a major news event.

That judgement describes staff being told not to report concerns to the children's safeguarding lead. It gives the impression that (despite this) a large proportion of staff had reported to either the CSL or the trust board because they felt they couldn't report them internally. It effectively states that the tribunal though Polly Carmichael (head of GIFS) lied in her testimony.

I think stuff like this should get a lot more attention though I understand why it doesn't.

There’s really no cover up going on here.

It wouldn't be MN if at least one person didn't reply to every OP with the most extreme interpretation possible.

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TurquoiseBaubles · 05/09/2021 23:19

But it should be a huge story. It's not about a woman winning compensation. It's about an NHS Trust completely disregarding basic safeguarding.

The fact that she has been compensated is pretty much irrelevant to the story that the safeguarding she was trying to implement was being disregarded across the board in a part of the NHS that was (and is) dealing with very vulnerable children.

That should, surely, make the headlines?

TurquoiseBaubles · 05/09/2021 23:21

x-post donquixote.

It is a cover-up if safeguarding rules are being disregarded, everyone knows about the rules being disregarded, and the facts are being hidden by the Trust. That's a scandal that should be front page news.

SevenOldLadies · 05/09/2021 23:22

I’m sure I saw it on the front page earlier today. I wonder if it got moved when the news broke about Sarah Harding?

donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 23:27

It is a cover-up if safeguarding rules are being disregarded, everyone knows about the rules being disregarded, and the facts are being hidden by the Trust.

I certainly think it's a failure. I don't see any evidence of a large scale cover up in the court docs but I do think Polly Carmichael has repeatedly been criticised for being unwilling to address the issues and deliberately taken steps to neuter scrutiny.

I mean that I don't think there is some BBC wide cover up as PP suggested. The indexing error was fixed within an hour of me first reading the article.

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LizzieSiddal · 05/09/2021 23:27

Sorry I should have clarified, that someone put a stop to the reporting if this in the radio news.

As I posted earlier, it was reported in detail at 8am this morning on R4, which is a 15 minute slot. By 9am it had completely disappeared. That is very usual for a Sunday morning.

SoundBar · 06/09/2021 00:18

It was in "Latest stories" on mobile at around 3pm Sunday but not sure if that was a targeted page.

StellaAndCrow · 06/09/2021 02:09

I've just looked on the BBC news website. This article is not on the front page of UK news, health or family.

CorianderBee · 06/09/2021 21:11

Most likely a journo forgot to swap the 'new articles' tab on their input system to the section name. Happens by accident all the time.

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