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Are expensive clothes worth it?

115 replies

strawberrydonuts · 03/09/2021 06:18

On the back of another thread, I've been browsing some online clothes stores.

I tend to like places like FatFace, Weird Fish, Sea Salt, Boden occasionally... just decent quality, casual stuff. I usually buy stuff in the sale but I might splurge £40-50 for a really good quality top or shirt which will last me years. I have some clothes from these places that have lasted me 10 years.

But looking at some of the online stores people suggested on another thread, I am seeing cotton tops/ shirts costing £100+ that look no different in quality to what you can get at FatFace for half the price.

Things like:
www.toa.st/collections/womens-tops-tees/products/seed-check-boxy-shirt-french-blue

AIBU to ask what's the difference? Are they really worth it? If you would pay £100+ for a casual top/ shirt, why? (Not in a judgemental way... I'm just genuinely wondering if I'm missing something!)

It can't be just about quality because the clothes I buy are good quality. Is it design/ fit? Is it about the materials and where they are sourced?

OP posts:
cestunestilo · 03/09/2021 12:12

Footwear probably . And water proofs . Other than that I just buy what I like for the look or how it makes me feel.

BlairWaldorfLovesShopping · 03/09/2021 12:31

The answer is of course "sometimes", like with any expensive item. (Expensive is also subjective.)

There are many reasons an "expensive" item of clothing may be "worth it" to a person, quality is just one of them but like you say not the only one.
Quality is subjective - I'd disagree that just because something lasts then it is better quality. It might look like a dishrag but just hasn't fallen apart and can still be worn. Quality is also in the fabric, the construction, the comfort/ease of wearing, and the level of design.

As pp have pointed out, there are several other factors such as:
Ethical considerations
Branding (yes a £300 t-shirt won't be 10 times higher quality than a £30 one, but it definitely will be a lot better, designers don't literally get away with slapping a logo on a £30 quality t-shirt and selling it for £300!)
Materials (a silk dress as opposed to a polyester one)
Pattern matching
Design
Fit (being measured on several bodies rather than just an average size 8 or 10 or whatever and scaled up/down)
Production quantities

To answer your question, I would pay £100 for a casual top if I liked it and thought it was worth it, because I can afford it.

If you are really interested why not order the Toast top on a credit card (if you actually like it) and compare it to one of your Boden tops? Could be a good experiment.

GreenBiro · 03/09/2021 12:34

You need to learn how to really understand quality in clothing.

Are things lined, and interfaced?
How are the seams constructed? Lots of interlocking, french seams, taped seams?
What is the cut like? Not just whether it flatters - but where does it sit in terms of pattern match and the how the grain of the fabric falls?
How are the pockets and closures constructed? Is there any lining? If so, is it generously cut and well installed?
Are there spare buttons / threads?
When you look at the garment, is it perfectly symmetrical?
When you try the garment on, does it pull or twist at all?
What is the fabric composed of? A bit of synthetic material can go a long way in something which is otherwise cotton / lined. Likewise a bit of natural material such as wool or cotton can really improve something that is synthetic.
How will you launder the item? Are you OK with this?

TIP: I spend a lot of time in shops turning garments inside out! ;-)

Any then other things...

Does it fit?
Do you like it?
Does it go with other things in your wardrobe?
Are you comfortable with the potential cost-per-wear?
How will you store it when you aren't wearing it?
Are you comfortable with how you might dispose of the garment when you have finished with it?

All of these things make for a much more interesting / complex decision than simply price / quality.

FangsForTheMemory · 03/09/2021 12:35

Designer labels are a waste of money. Good quality brands are worth it IME

Snoozer11 · 03/09/2021 12:49

You need to shop around for quality but more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.

I find the quality of ASOS clothes absolutely terrible. They don't last one wash and is just a complete waste of £6. Similarly with Primark, I don't like the fit but I admit it's useful for swimwear and the like.

Somewhere like Uniqlo, which is inexpensive uses great materials and their simple £10 t-shirts last years.

You then have Ralph Lauren, which charges £50 for a t shirt which I don't feel fits particularly well or retains its shape or colour after a few washes.

It's all about knowing where to go and which brands to trust.

Though in my experience, you can't compromise with good coats, jackets and footwear. A £250 North Face jacket will always be worth it over a £80 high street coat.

stepupandbecounted · 03/09/2021 13:34

I do buy expensive clothes and classics, and they last decades. So for me they are worth it. I invest in special one off dresses, and coats that last forever with some dry cleaning once a year. It is sustainable shopping in my view. I only shop three times a year.

Hop27 · 04/09/2021 00:16

Anything you love wearing, makes you feel
fabulous or really suits you is worth it. It's no relevance on cost in my opinion. Some cheap clothes can last years, expensive ones only last a season. Wear what you love, regardless of price tag.

beansprout55 · 04/09/2021 00:16

No!!!

DogsandCatsB4u · 04/09/2021 00:17

Bags and shoes yes
River island clothes are okay and other high street I have brought designer jumpers, dresses etc and no better than others

TTCAbroad · 04/09/2021 05:26

@Champersandchocolate he may well have done all that but he was also was a cutter on Savile Row. The pieces he put out reflected that - imagine being able to turn a bin bag into a tailored work of art. Many of the pieces at AM still demonstrate commitment to high quality construction. Are people who buy from luxury brands ‘lining the pockets of the business’; obviously. But so is someone who buys clothes at Primark. That’s literally what being a business is about.

Draineddraineddrained · 04/09/2021 06:02

I watched Shop Well For Less the other night and the bloke on there was into his designer. My head just about exploded when he said he'd paid £350 for a pair of foam sliders just because they were designer. Fucking flip flops. £350. There is not a power on earth that would induce me to spend that much on a pair of shoes, never mind flip flops. There is no way the quality could be THAT much better.

Have to say though I find quality from pretty much all retailers highly variable. Sainsbury's Tu is a good example - some lovely things in great fabrics I'll love forever, some utterly horrible cheap-feeling rubbish. Even if both are "100% cotton", which bewilders me. Boden is another one, slightly higher end. My sister shops there loads for her kids so mine have ended up with some great hand-me-downs from them; then this year they had a jersey dress with a pattern I really coveted, I ummed and aahed then eventually coughed up close to £30 for a jersey dress for a 4yo... And in the flesh so disappointing - the print seemed really cheaply printed, fabric felt slippery and thin, and the hem was thready after about 1 wash! Took a while to come as well so I wonder if they have a consistent supplier or just shop around for the cheapest factory/producer this sometimes good and sometimes bad.

Seasalt Cornwall is consistently very good quality but have got quite conservative and mumsy design-wise of late which is a shame. But they're a brand I'd spend money on.

Fat Face and White Stuff REALLY lost their way about 5/10 years ago I fear - in my teens and twenties they were my "I can't afford it but I'll ask for it for my birthday or hunt it down on eBay" aspirational brands, really solid good quality stuff that lasted incredibly well and looked better the longer you wore it, some interesting prints but good basic styles you could build and combine . You knew for example you could go in there and find s good corduroy skirt in a range of colours, a really nice thick cotton sweatshirt. At some point they went completely weird and the styles and prints became this sort of mad ever-changing panoply, sizing went MAD (I am not a size 10 at this almost 12 stone phase of my life, but I fit a FF size 10 sometimes!), and consistency of quality really deteriorated.

I think the rise of online shopping really plays a part.

I'd pay more to know from looking online how the fabric was going to FEEL when it arrives.

Draineddraineddrained · 04/09/2021 06:11

I'd never buy shoes made of anything except leather or cotton canvas though because nothing else ages well. I expect to get years out of a pair of shoes. A pair of Clarks sandals finally gave up the ghost recently and I was gutted until I remembered I'd had them almost 10 years. Likewise I reheeled and soled some Joules ankle boots recently and was vexed at the additionl cost - then remembered I'd worn them about 70% of the time year round for 2.5 years because they're AMAZING. I work shoes bloody hard and expect a lot back from them.

DorisFlies · 04/09/2021 06:11

I have two Toast shirts (sale buys). They have been with me for years and are such lovely cut and fabric. Jeans on the other hand - tried a couple of posher brands but found M & S fit me best.

RichPetunia · 04/09/2021 06:25

A relative of mine worked in a factory making leisure wear. Regardless, of the brand, everything was made to the same design and standards. The only difference?- the logos applied at the end.

Draineddraineddrained · 04/09/2021 06:30

@RichPetunia

I have wondered about this!! Like Aldi brand biscuits 😂 just makes brand loyalty feel incredibly futile.

torquewench · 04/09/2021 06:30

The day to day stuff I wear most regularly is from places like White Stuff and Monsoon, and I've only recently discovered and got a few bits from Oliver Bonas. I love Gabor shoes as I find the fit good for me and they're really comfy. I've a couple of pairs of Spanx jeggings, gym stuff is mostly Sweaty Betty (some of thats v old tho). I do find that Primark type things just don't look great on me (5'6", booby and need to lose about 2-3 stone). I'm also not keen on polyester for various reasons 🥵.

However, where I really don't mind spending quite a bit of my money is on my biking kit - my boots were £359, I've had them about 6 years and they're still like new, 100% waterproof and comfy to walk about in as well as when riding. Another £250 for some Knox kevlar jeans - the construction, fit and rise (and colour, as there's no fake fading etc on them) is better than my everyday ones, they're so comfy and even the hip armour in them doesn't add bulk to my frame. I've also spent about £300 on a Knox jacket, and it's the only one I've ever had that's been fully waterproof. It's a waterproof top layer, optional quilted mid layer and a close fitting stretchy layer which has armour. Biking kit isn't necessarily the best if you're worried about looking stylish but this is the best stuff I've ever had with the added bonus for me of not having naff floral embroidery that a lot of female biking kit has. So around £900 for one "everyday" outfit (plus another £400 for the helmet and £75 for gloves) may seem a bit pricey, but it'll last me many years worn in all weathers (and regularly be covered in dead bugs 🤢).

Also, if there's anyone out there that can recommend riding gloves that are actually waterproof and don't soak up water like a sponge, please do share 😁

IamEarthymama · 04/09/2021 06:42

In Men at Arms, Terry Pratchett presented Captain Samuel Vimes ‘Boots’ theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.”.

Pratchett presents another economic theory in Men At Arms.

“The very very rich could afford to be poor. Sybil Ramkin lived in the kind of poverty that was only available to the very rich, a poverty approached from the other side. Women who were merely well-off saved up and bought dresses made of silk edged with lace and pearls, but Lady Ramkin was so rich she could afford to stomp around the place in rubber boots and a tweed skirt that had belonged to her mother. She was so rich she could afford to live on biscuits and cheese sandwiches.”

I worked in a tiny boutique in Welsh Valleys community when I was 13 years old, (weekend job, it was legal, honest.) The wholesalers would send round copies of clothes that had been seen on Top of the Pops the week before. Fridays, payday, the girls from local shops and factories picked up the things they had chosen and put away during the week. They would look fabulous for their weekend evenings. 😊

I love clothes and for many years I followed fashion trends, though I always wore ‘good’ shoes, Bally stilettos were a favourite.

In the last 20 odd years my thinking and my way of life have changed. I now shop less impulsively, I try to buy second hand, I choose material that will wear well, I dye my clothes to extend the length of time they look good. I also wear clothes that aren’t fashionable, they suit me in my middle age.
However, I know if my income rose I would buy clothes that are out of my budget at present. I like to visit a wonderful shop and dream!

Capitalism depends on creating wants, of creating a dream that we can buy our way into. I am fully aware of this and also self-aware enough to know that part of me will always be that 13 year old who knew that a fringed suede jacket and a pair of hot pants were the pathway to my perfect life! 😊

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/09/2021 06:54

Boden prints on t-shirt jersey do not wash well, most disappointing. Monsoon prints have worn far better. Tailored dresses and jackets are of better quality fabrics and finish than ones from primark for example. Knitted winter dresses wear the same as something from M&S. Perhaps the quality of material and cut is often superior. I now only buy boden in the sales.

I have a Burberry Mac it is beautiful but proportionately far more expensive than it would justifiably be worth. Ditto my other designer clothes. Yes, they were well tailored and lasted a long time. The stitching didn’t come undone, that’s for sure! But I haven’t bought anything recently to compare.

Take my MaxMara (now far too small) evening gown, this cost 600 Euros years ago at an outlet shop. At the time that sort of fabric and finish was not available on the high street. It’s far better quality than something from Monsoon for example - I don’t think it is like comparing a £300 wedding dress to a £3k one though. There is a lot of work in a fully boned, hand sewn on beaded 3k wedding dress - or do they cost far more than that?

Dh has had suits from Givenchy, YSL, Boss etc. Boss definitely the lower end in quality of the 3. But a Givenchy suit is 2k now. Do I think they’re worth it? Boss and M&S Saville row inspired range are not that far apart in terms of quality.

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/09/2021 06:56

Oh I forgot about shoes and boots. Definitely worth paying extra. Far better quality than Clark’s.

Grapeuk · 04/09/2021 06:57

@DappledThings

All the shops you mention are expensive to me. I have plenty of items from Primark and supermarkets that have lasted 10 years+ as well.
I agree with this. I've never been one to spend loads on clothes but that's more due to not having the money too. I'm in a better situation now financially but have no desire now to change where I shop. I dont mind cheap and cheerful. My OH who has recently moved in with me has more expensive taste but again that's due to different financial situations.

In my office some of my colleagues are 8-10 years younger then me and it amazes me how much they spend on bags etc but maybe I am just getting old! 🙃

EmeraldRaine · 04/09/2021 07:01

£40-50 for a top is very expensive already. Confused

And no. Generally the clothes are made in the same factory from the same fabric as other brands. You're paying for the name, in most cases. You could probably get your same quality top that you'll pay £50 for, for £20 elsewhere. Or, shock horror, secondhand.

OldTinHat · 04/09/2021 07:06

Charity shops are your friend here. I have loads of designer tops that cost a fiver max in a charity shop. You can tell they are good quality because they don't lose their shape or go bobbly.

Dreamstate · 04/09/2021 07:21

I really loved the quality of Karen Miller clothes before it got taken over by boohoo. Yes they were expensive so always waited for the sale but I got a number of jumpers that are still looking new after 7 years of wearing them. Colour hasn't faded, no bobbling etc. Tshirts still looking new too. On the other hand I've had Tshirts from primark that don't even last a year before you seen colour fading.

Givemethatknife · 04/09/2021 07:34

@EmeraldRaine

£40-50 for a top is very expensive already. Confused

And no. Generally the clothes are made in the same factory from the same fabric as other brands. You're paying for the name, in most cases. You could probably get your same quality top that you'll pay £50 for, for £20 elsewhere. Or, shock horror, secondhand.

Well this is not true - there is a price point below which clothes are going to be badly made, won’t last, and are a waste of resources. I don’t think (for example) seasalt shirts are made in the same factory as primark, or if they are, they are made to a different spec.

Of course also there is a high point beyond which you are paying for design rather than quality. In which case you need to make sure the quality and design are such that it will last.

ActonSquirrel · 04/09/2021 07:35

Things like a pair of winter boots might only last a season or two if you wear them every day...but twenty or thirty pounds every year is still cheaper than 150 for a good quality "classic" pair that you feel you have to keep wearing forever even though two years into buying them knee high black leather you can only wear with skinny jeans is completely out and everyone else is wearing brightly coloured ankle boots with their mom jeans!

That depends if you care what the latest trends are. Or like them.

I don't care what everyone else is wearing, I wouldn't be found dead in bright coloured ankle boots and mom jeans. Deeply unflattering