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To be Bossy About My BILs Health?

88 replies

Fucket · 29/08/2021 08:28

My BIL, lives alone has a girlfriend of sorts (he never lives with his partners, just cycles through them every 1-3 years), had a health scare 2-3 years ago. He had sores on his feet, and couldn’t walk far, was told he had an enlarged heart with fluid build up. He was also told he was pre-diabetic. This was all on private health with his employer scheme. But then he quit his job and left that scheme and has started with a different health insurance provider. I think this is relevant because I don’t think notes get shared, and I don’t believe BIL has been to see a GP.

BIL told us 2-3 years ago it was an infection with his heart that had caused it. His sores seemed to have disappeared and we assumed all was well.

Fast forward to Covid we didn’t see him in a year at least. He told my DH (his brother) that he’d got a hernia around his belly button and was seeing a consultant about operating.

BIL tells DH they won’t operate because BIL has heart failure, possible liver failure, ascites and fluid in his abdomen and around his lungs and heart. He’s going to see a heart consultant once private referral from one doctor to the other goes through. In the meantime we now see BIL in the flesh at my son’s birthday party. Whereby he is gaunt in face, and arms, but a huge belly. He looks dire. I prepare a raw salad for BIL which everyone can eat but he insists on ordering a pizza (because my son wanted takeaway pizza for his birthday). He ate a massive pizza. He’s off out to a party today with his girlfriend.

I want to call BIL tomorrow and find out exactly what steps he’s taking to protect his health. He just tells DH he knows he needs to change his diet, but will wait to see consultant first. I doubt BIL has told his girlfriend about all this because I refuse to believe any sane, caring woman will allow her boyfriend to continue drinking and partying with such serious problems.

My FIL is ill, and both he and MIL don’t know because BIL doesn’t want to worry them.

DH is telling me not to get involved. My thinking is, I don’t care if I upset BIL because he is seriously ill and might respond to someone willing to help them think about hospitals and doctors appointments.

I have done similar with my father before he got a partner, buried his head in the sand and used to ring him daily and nag him to see a GP and get him to go shopping and buy healthy food. My father was depressed, and couldn’t think for himself properly. DH thinks I’m not to try. When DH speaks to BIL he seems to dance about the issue but never really has a direct conversation about it. I don’t think DH is taking it seriously either, he wanted me to buy beer for his brother for the party and I point blank refused to.

So AIBU to ignore DH and telephone BIL?

I wanted to speak with BIL alone in person at the party but my kids wouldn’t give us any free time to do so.

BIL is 50 btw and mostly lives on takeaways and never exercises so I cannot understand how he has gone from being overweight to how he is in 18 months of not seeing him because of covid restrictions without something seriously wrong with him.

OP posts:
sammylady37 · 30/08/2021 06:36

i wasn’t talking about the op’s bil in my post you quoted. I was replying to another poster whose BIL was^ morbidly obese and died, and that poster is regretting not saying something as she thinks it might have made the difference

sammylady37 · 30/08/2021 06:37

^^ I messed up my italics there, sorry!

Miniroofbox · 30/08/2021 06:40

I can’t believe that at a family party you gave everyone else pizza but made fat BIL a salad. That’s horrible.

He doesn’t sound obese anyway he sounds like he has health issues.

Mistyplanet · 30/08/2021 08:03

I think you've got good intentions OP and cant see what harm can be done by having a chat with your Bil about seeing his GP and make general enquiries about his health and make some suggestions. I think I'd want to do something too.

frumpety · 30/08/2021 08:25

@sammylady37 sometimes conversations can trigger people to seek help or make changes.

LBirch02 · 30/08/2021 08:50

YABU - I tend to me a more ‘live and let live type’ - even if I want someone to do a certain thing - I bite my tongue and let them make the decision

sammylady37 · 30/08/2021 10:54

[quote frumpety]@sammylady37 sometimes conversations can trigger people to seek help or make changes.[/quote]
Sometimes, yes. In extremely complex situations, (such as morbid obesity, which was the post I was responding to) not likely.

ManifestDestinee · 30/08/2021 10:58

Where have you absorbed this idea that men’s health is women’s responsibility?

And where have you absorbed the idea that when you see a family member, someone you love, hurtling towards the grave, you say "fuck it, not my problem, his fault if he dies?"

ExtraOnions · 30/08/2021 11:01

Fluid Retention can be caused by heart failure … if he is gaunt elsewhere, but has a huge belly, it could well be that it’s nothing to do with diet, but is fluid that needs to be drained away.

If it was my relative damn right I would be encouraging them to go to the GP

callmeadoctor · 30/08/2021 12:19

@ExtraOnions

Fluid Retention can be caused by heart failure … if he is gaunt elsewhere, but has a huge belly, it could well be that it’s nothing to do with diet, but is fluid that needs to be drained away.

If it was my relative damn right I would be encouraging them to go to the GP

Close relative maybe, in this case as its the OPs BIL, isn't it up to her DH to say something then. (Cant imagine that the OP is really close to her BIL.)
ManifestDestinee · 30/08/2021 12:22

(Cant imagine that the OP is really close to her BIL.)

Do you have a very poor imagination? I'm very close to my BIL, many people are.

callmeadoctor · 30/08/2021 13:01

@ManifestDestinee

(Cant imagine that the OP is really close to her BIL.)

Do you have a very poor imagination? I'm very close to my BIL, many people are.

No I don't have a poor imagination, thank you Wink
frumpety · 30/08/2021 13:03

@sammylady37 I have had some success talking to my morbidly obese patients, as someone who is catergorised as obese myself, I have empathy with their situation. I don't tell them what to do, I ask them if they want help, what do they think would help, what do they want to achieve, it's rarely to be a size 8, most would be happy with an improvement in their mobility and dignity as a starting point.

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