Giving toddler the middle finger

[Peabodi]

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Clearly fantastic source of information.
But do you all think this is atrocious or something that won't hurt as they haven't seen?

Doesn't hear me say it *

Going against the grain here and gonna say I actually find that really appalling. I mean, if it’s that or explode at her daughter then it’s the lesser of two evils, but I still find it sickening.

It shows a level of contempt and disrespect imo. Toddlers don’t know why they’re being a handful, they’re an intense blend of impulsivity, being uninhibited, lacking emotional regulation skills, being very much in the moment and still learning how to cope with disappointment and frustration. Can’t imagine a situation where I’d ever think it was okay to do that to my son, even if he didn’t know.

What about if your toddler has loss of eyesight? Is it okay to do it to their face then?

Used to do it now and then and still mutter F OFF under my breath. Toddlers are awful

Toddlers don’t know why they’re being a handful, they’re an intense blend of impulsivity, being uninhibited, lacking emotional regulation skills, being very much in the moment and still learning how to cope with disappointment and frustration.

Many adults are the same. That's why we developed phrases such as 'as per my previous email' and 'please let me know if you need any further clarity'.

Should we stop using those too?

I see no problem here

No wonder so many parents have mental health issues in this day and age! They're told that most reasonable forms of punishment are damaging to a child such as giving them time out causes attachment issues, raising your voice causes low self esteem ect... and then, when the child turns into a horrible, rude, and self centred teenager/adult, people blame the parents as they weren't strict enough or were lazy parents who couldnt be arsed to discipline

I could not possibly agree with this more 👏🏻

@AndTheReasonIsYou

No wonder so many parents have mental health issues in this day and age! They're told that most reasonable forms of punishment are damaging to a child such as giving them time out causes attachment issues, raising your voice causes low self esteem ect... and then, when the child turns into a horrible, rude, and self centred teenager/adult, people blame the parents as they weren't strict enough or were lazy parents who couldnt be arsed to discipline

I could not possibly agree with this more 👏🏻

Can either of you explain the link between giving your toddler the middle finger behind their back and discipline?

@BabyLeaf

The link is that parents literally cant do anything right! She hasn't harmed the child, the child doesnt know that his mum has swore at him behind his back and it probably just gives mum a quick emotional outlet which then enables her to smile and carry on with the day.

If the mum had swore out loud at the child or the mum deliberately stuck her middle finger up at the child so they could see it then that's very different.

The link is that parents literally cant do anything right!

Still not seeing it. What she’s doing isn’t in any way shape or form discipline, discipline hasn’t been mentioned so nobody is criticising her disciplinary approach.

Bit of a non sequitur! Smells a bit like ‘back in my day kids were tough and resilient and we gave them clips around the ear, these days parents let kids rule the roost...’ boomer energy.

Waiting for someone to let me know if this is okay to do to a blind child’s face, after all they can’t see it.

@BabyLeaf

**Smells a bit like ‘back in my day kids were tough and resilient and we gave them clips around the ear, these days parents let kids rule the roost...’ boomer energy.

No one mentioned anything about clipping children around the ear or advocating for that type of punishment. I do not agree with physical punishment at all.

I pointed out that parents cant do anything right and gave some examples to explain my point. Sticking her finger up at her toddler behind their back is just the same as muttering 'for fuck sake' under your breath. Plenty of parents do that because guess what....were not robots. Adults have feelings too. As long as child isnt aware of their sweaing parent and the parents arn't allowing their frustration to interfere with their childs upbringing then whats the problem?

I don't much care for anything done behind someone's back tbh. I'd be more upset at someone doing this to me than I would if they they told me how they felt to my face. It's so sneaky and cowardly to make gestures someone can't see. Obviously you can't tell a toddler what you think of them, but the principle of the sly nastiness feels the same to me and I'd be using other ways to let off steam.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Wasn’t this a mn thread years ago?

Yes I'm sure it was.

@BabyLeaf

Waiting for someone to let me know if this is okay to do to a blind child’s face, after all they can’t see it.

Oh for whoever thinks the middle finger behind the back is okay, I thought of another question:

Is it okay to call a deaf child a piece of shit or tell them to fuck off if they can’t hear you?