To worry

[minniemouse31]

Little one is 4. She has been dry day and night since 2 1/2 l. The last few weeks she has suddenly started having frequent bed wetting, I have been limiting drinks before bed ect but it doesn't seem to make any difference. She is also constantly asking for a drink through the day and has been really tired. She normally sleeps 12 hours per night but has also been having 2 hour naps during the day and is still really tired in the afternoons. Not sure what to think?

I’d book in to see the gp if abnormally tired and thirsty- the bed wetting doesn’t concern me as much

Diabetes. She needs to have an appointment tomorrow, and if your GP won’t see her, then go to A and E, or a walk in centre.
Actually, I’d recommend you dial 111 now, she could be seen this evening by the on call GP

@user1471462115

Diabetes. She needs to have an appointment tomorrow, and if your GP won’t see her, then go to A and E, or a walk in centre. Actually, I’d recommend you dial 111 now, she could be seen this evening by the on call GP

Wouldn't there be more obvious signs of illness with this? She seems absolutely fine in herself other than the tiredness and wetting the bed x

I’d also think diabetes with those symptoms. Definitely get her checked by a GP.

There was a poster years ago: "Always tired, always thirsty, always going to the loo? You might have diabetes."

It's worth checking. I think a simple test can pick it up.

Good luck 💐

Thank You everyone I will try and make an appt with the gp tomorrow to get her seen x

There are three T’s for diabetes
Tiredness, as the body can’t process energy due to lack of insulin
Thirst
Toilet, as the body is getting rid of the sugar in the urine

You have listed them all.

Type 1 comes on very quickly, a few days or a very few weeks. You say this has been going on for a while now.

You could wait for the coma of DKA which is life threatening and very scary for you and for your little one, or you could call someone now to prevent it getting too far…….

A friend's daughter developed diabetes - no other symptoms than thirst, lethargy, hunger, also a bit of weight loss. It probably isn't that, but it's a medical emergency if it is - definitely get it ruled out.

Please call 111 now, if we are wrong you have only wasted a bit of your time and a call handlers time.

If we are right, you are both spared a lot of extra hassle

@user1471462115

There are three T’s for diabetes Tiredness, as the body can’t process energy due to lack of insulin Thirst Toilet, as the body is getting rid of the sugar in the urine

You have listed them all.

Type 1 comes on very quickly, a few days or a very few weeks. You say this has been going on for a while now.

You could wait for the coma of DKA which is life threatening and very scary for you and for your little one, or you could call someone now to prevent it getting too far…….

Thank you for the advice. Sorry if I seemed a bit blasé about it, I didn't mean to I just am used to being told I'm an over worrier so I question everything. I will definitely make a call to the gp first thing in the morning

If she is sleeping so much more that is a worry.

Please please please call 111 now, and you may even think to pack a bag for you both as many places admit new T1 diabetes patients to hospital to stabilise.

I work in this area and am trying to not scare you, but to get you to act very promptly.
And I probably have scared you, so have a look at diabetes.uk website and see what they recommend.

Please talk to someone very very soon, ie tonight, ie now

Just wondering if the GP will tell you to go straight to A&E......

We’ve literally just had this with our 12 year old DS. If your DD’s breath is smelling in anyway acidic or fruity then please take her to a and e straight away.

Take her to a GP, and don’t ever feel bad for being a worrier, you (and her dad) are the only people that can find her appropriate medical care, it’s a big deal so don’t feel bad for worrying about it. Doctors would always rather check.

This happened to my friend's son. He was older though, but sudden bed wetting is a classic symptom of diabetes - especially with increased thirst.

Good luck OP.

@minniemouse31 - please can I just say, if you don’t get an appointment with your GP this morning, take her to A and E. They will take this seriously. Everything you have mentioned points to type 1 diabetes and this can get very serious, very quickly.

My friend was diagnosed with T1 diabetes at 6, I still remember her Mum coming into school to explain what it meant to us all. Her only symptoms were excessive thirst and feeling more tired than usual. She passed out one day so her parents rushed her to A&E.

Thanks everyone. I have an appt with the gp shortly so I will update with what they say

This is how my then 3 year old DD was diagnosed with T1 diabetes, she was tired, thirsty and betwetting after being previously dry, you are doing the right thing getting her checked, they will probably do a vey quick finger prick test to test her blood sugars, hope all goes well at the GP

Hope all is okay but sounds like Type 1 Diabetes as others have said. Fingers crossed for you both

Just to update dr said no sugar in urine so even though no infection turned up either they are going to treat it as another urine infection with antibiotics. She's had a few urine infections this year so that's why they think it is that

Did they do any blood tests ?
A HbA1c would show her average sugar level over the last few weeks, and a random blood test would show if the sugar is high at present.

There must be a reason for the repeated UTI’s, ( big drip feed there ) as repeated uti or thrush can also indicate diabetes.
It isn’t normal for a four year old to have repeat uti’s

So glad you have been seen and she is ok,

@user1471462115

Did they do any blood tests ? A HbA1c would show her average sugar level over the last few weeks, and a random blood test would show if the sugar is high at present.

There must be a reason for the repeated UTI’s, ( big drip feed there ) as repeated uti or thrush can also indicate diabetes.
It isn’t normal for a four year old to have repeat uti’s

So glad you have been seen and she is ok,

Sorry for the drip feed but im honestly not sure what else I can say. She's had repeated uti's so she was sent for a bladder scan about 6 months ago but that came up clear. We weren't offered any blood tests because they said there was no sugar in her urine. The dr did say it is very unusual for her to have started bed wetting after being dry so long so she said if the medicine doesn't work to take her back and they will investigate

I also asked about the tiredness, for example she slept from 6pm till 7.30am last night and then had a 2 hour nap at lunch time and then was tired at 6 and ready for bed but they didn't really comment on it

Honestly, I'd be the pushy parent asking for a proper test.

If they refuse, I'd also put her symptoms in writing to them and make them justify in writing the grounds on which they are refusing to investigate it further as a possible case of diabetes. A paper trail like that tends to focus minds and chances are either they will think, "shit, yeah, my flimsy reasons wouldn't look good to a court if she does in fact have diabetes, which actually is still a possibility given her symptoms despite the itinerary test we've done. Here's a referral," or you will have some comfort that they have properly thought it through and decided to put their money where their mouth is (following which you can always ask for a second opinion).

Never be embarrassed to advocate for your child because you're afraid someone might refer to you disparagingly as a worrier or think you're pushy. They might well do. So what? Does it really even feature in the balance of protecting your child's health?