To have a quiet scream at this (covid related)?

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I’m pregnant, on a FB group with lots of other pregnant women.

One has been very vocal throughout about not getting vaccinated, not sure why she should trust it, she’d wait, her husband would wait (why??), on and on. Lots of people replied with links to research, suggested she speak to her midwife, explained why they’d chosen to have it. She spoke to the MW twice but was still undecided, the posts kept coming.

You can guess what happened next. They both, and their kid, got covid. Endless posts about how awful it was, breathing difficulties visits to A&E, rah rah rah. Lots of sympathetic replies and advice.

And today she’s popped up again - apparently you have antibodies after having covid, so maybe she shouldn’t bother with the vaccine now? Cue a dozen measured replies from people with links etc etc.

Just - aaargh. What is the thought process here? How can you literally have covid, apparently not mildly, and still think, nah, vaccine’s not for me mate. Presumably if she does eventually get the vaccine we’ll have a post about how sore her arm is or whatever other fuckwittery. Argh.

I can’t reply on there to say she’d have potentially not had it or had it as severely if she had chosen to be vaccinated in the first place because that’s not warm n fuzzy, so I’ll say it here.

I don’t blame pregnant women for not having the vaccine- honestly OP come off any mother groups, their opinions on everything will annoy 10 fold once the babies come.
Each to their own.

My DP follows a YouTuber in America so to with car stuff and he posted a video saying he and his partner got covid really badly and were in hospital. They are also both not going to get vaccinated no accounting for stupid.

Are they? The research I've read states that it's twice as likely to be reinfected as it is to have a breakthrough infection.

Isn’t that piece comparing those who have been both infected and vaccinated with those who’ve just been infected? Or am I misinterpreting?

Whereas my comparison was those with only vaccination immunity compared with those with only previous infection immunity.

@TheKeatingFive

Are they? The research I've read states that it's twice as likely to be reinfected as it is to have a breakthrough infection.

Isn’t that piece comparing those who have been both infected and vaccinated with those who’ve just been infected? Or am I misinterpreting?

Whereas my comparison was those with only vaccination immunity compared with those with only previous infection immunity.

Misinterpreting, I think. It is specific to reinfection now that Delta is prevalent.

"Among Kentucky residents infected with SARS-CoV-2 in 2020, vaccination status of those reinfected during May–June 2021 was compared with that of residents who were not reinfected. In this case-control study, being unvaccinated was associated with 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with being fully vaccinated."

Public Health England released similar data in July: www.reuters.com/world/uk/public-health-england-says-signs-increased-reinfection-risk-with-delta-variant-2021-07-23/

You can scream all you like, but COVID issues, have highlighted, just how many loopy people there are out there.. so best ignore any chat about it now. I would not be on any social media stuff about pregnancies either, some good information there I suppose, but some barmy stuff as well.

Mmm, not sure that stacks up with the numbers of confirmed reinfections globally.

Regardless, recovery from covid is widely acknowledged to confer significant protection. Here in ROI, recovery from covid is equivalent to full vaccination when it comes to covid ‘freedom’ passes or whatever you want to call them.

So I don’t think her position is radical. I might do the same if I were her, and get the vaccine after giving birth. And like I say, I’m pretty pro vaccines.

@TheKeatingFive

Mmm, not sure that stacks up with the numbers of confirmed reinfections globally.

Regardless, recovery from covid is widely acknowledged to confer significant protection. Here in ROI, recovery from covid is equivalent to full vaccination when it comes to covid ‘freedom’ passes or whatever you want to call them.

So I don’t think her position is radical. I might do the same if I were her, and get the vaccine after giving birth. And like I say, I’m pretty pro vaccines.

Do you have a reliable source for tracked reinfections globally? I'm certainly not having much luck finding one, and certainly not one that reflects the impact of delta.

I found some good stuff a few weeks ago, but I can't get hold of it now unfortunately. Obviously I googled the right combination of words then.

What I keep getting now is that your chance of getting covid again after being infected is less than 1 in 1000. But I don't know how that stacks up against vaccines.

What I keep getting now is that your chance of getting covid again after being infected is less than 1 in 1000. But I don't know how that stacks up against vaccines.

The 1 in 1000 figure is problematic; those were the initial findings in Israel but they're out of date due to delta. The paper it comes from is also pre-print, it hasn't been peer reviewed yet. It's here: www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.06.21253051v1 but as you can see it was published in March using data from the end of 2020/early 2021.

@TinaYouFatLard

It’s absolutely none of your damn business what another woman puts in her and her unborn baby’s body.

But posting for advice on fb is actively asking for opinions, wouldn't you think?

I dunno in Portugal you can’t have the vaccine for six months after having covid so they obviously think having it gives you some immunity