To think the "special relationship' between The UK and US is dead in the water.

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From the US leaving abruptly and not consulting with the UK they were going ( and unrepentant ) and the strong comments in Parliament yesterday against their behaviour, lots of veiled criticism directed at Biden and the speech he gave

Has the trust gone? I think it has and we're actually in bloody scary place right now with the Taliban finally legitimising its self with taking a Sovereign State with clearly the backing of Russia and China.

I find it terrifying that China has publicly held the hand of friendship out to these monsters after having their meeting a short while ago in China. Wang Yi (China’s foreign minister) said he hoped the Taliban would crack down on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement as it was a “direct threat to China’s national security” - So he backed monsters hoping they would fight the 'other' monsters for him with no consideration to the millions of lives that would be effected.

Yet it was only last year that the US took the East Turkestan Islamic Movement of their Terrorist list as there was no evidence over the past decade.

Trump and Biden need to be ashamed of themselves.

Bump

While I agree there is no special relationship, I think it’s been that way for a long time now.

I do disagree with this
From the US leaving abruptly and not consulting with the UK they were going ( and unrepentant )

The US announced withdrawal in 2011 under Obama and he began the withdraw down and transition. The U.K. was indeed consulted, agreed and they completely withdrew apart from around 750 advisors/liaison officers in 2014. The final withdrawal date wasn’t known, in fact Obama considered ordering it before Trump took office. But he decided to drawn down to only a few thousand military personnel instead. It’s been coming and talked about for a decade. It certainly wasn’t “abrupt” and the U.K. knew it was coming which is why they had withdrawn much earlier themselves.

I don't think it was ever alive apart from in the imagination of the UK.

Would you want a special relationship with the conservatives, because that is effectively what it requires.

It was only ever the UK doing what it was told to do

If only the West never backed despotic regimes in order to secure their own economic interests.

Take it from a Canadian there’s no “special” relationship ever. The USA is very self serving as it should be for their people.
The Afghan situation is certainly not what most people thought would happen. Obviou

Don't be ever fooled into believing that the US is concerned about the world. Its only concerned about what it can gain, and the hell to the rest of the world. Remember its US policy to counter Soviet in Afghanistan that led to demise of a peaceful country prior to the 1980's. Its western policy that has fecked things up in the region.

I wrote my dissertation on the 'special relationship' in relation to defence back in 2007 and it was dead then, and laughed at by the Americans.