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To think this is bloody daft of the hotel?

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JurassicPark101 · 18/08/2021 17:25

I’ve booked a hotel for Friday night until Monday morning. Unfortunately due to childcare issues I found out today that I won’t be able to get there until Saturday morning now. It’s all been prepaid for and as it’s less than 7 days before the booking it’s completely non-refundable and can’t be rearranged.

I’m not too fussed about it being non-refundable, totally understand they probably wouldn’t be able to fill the room again at short notice. Anyway, I phone the hotel to let them know that I do still want the booking but that I won’t be arriving until about 9.30ish on the Saturday rather than the Friday afternoon as originally planned. Receptionist on phone says ‘that’s fine, thanks for letting us know. Just so you know you’re welcome to use the facilities but your room won’t be available until check in at 3pm.” I reiterate that I’ve already paid for the room (and breakfast and dinner which I won’t be having either) from Friday so it should be available when I get there at 9.30. Again “sorry, no but we can’t allow early check in under any circumstances at the moment. We’re totally fully booked and the cleaners just can’t get the rooms ready before this.”

I ask to speak to someone else as I assume she’s possibly new or young or thick as mince. She passes me over to another woman but I hear her say “can you speak to this lady, she won’t understand why she can’t check in at 9.30am”. I explain the situation again. New lady replies with “I empathise with your situation but as we are fully booked we simply can’t allow you to check in nearly 6 hours early”. I tell her that it’s not 6 hours early, it’s 18 hours late. Im booked from the Friday night. I’m paying for the Friday night but I can’t get there until Saturday morning. I’ve paid £145 for a room, dinner and breakfast and none of it will be used. If I was arriving on time, I would be able to return to my room at 9.30am if I chose to do so. She tell me that I'm not arriving on time though so the room won’t be ready until 3pm Confused.

I ask if there’s a manager that I can email, or a head office as this is just bonkers. She gives me an email address. I write a very calm, concise email explaining that I’ll be getting there at 9.30 the day after I’m due to arrive. I’ve just had an email back (from the reception again) telling me that my room will be ready at 3pm and they hope I enjoy my stay.

How do I resolve this? They’re all mad. Aren’t they? I’m not going crazy in thinking I should be allowed in the room when I get there am I? It should be ready for 3pm on Friday so will still be ready at 9.30 on Saturday, surely?

OP posts:
SusieBob · 20/08/2021 09:10

@sunglassesonthetable

Once again, this mainly applies to hotels in cities and ones which tend to have shorter stays and less predictable booking patterns.

Once again this is in a small, independent hotel in West Cornwall, in the middle of nowhere, nearest alternative accommodation a pub about 20 mins away. ( though just getting a taxi at short notice would be an achievement ) OP is a returning customer of many visits. Cornwall is booked to the gunnels.

No shit, which is why I added caveatsto the post explaining I'm not applying this directly to the OP's situation which has already been discussed.
SusieBob · 20/08/2021 09:26

@Totallydefeated

This is going in circles.

SusieBob It certainly is, because you keep repeating yourself, failing to follow what other posters are saying and failing to grasp that OP isn’t a no-show.

It's not fraud, it's not "breech of contract" and it's common practice. If you have a prepaid hotel room and you don't turn up until the following day, the hotel owes you the grand sum of fuck all.

If you reread, this time more carefully, you will see that I have said ‘ it would be fraud in similar circumstances’, not that it actually is fraud. More by luck in how the terms of the Fraud Act 2006 is drafted than in terms of morality, however.

OP is not failing to show, she is merely arriving late.

You and all the other posters getting outraged about it doesn't change that.

As I have said twice already, it may well be common practice and the shysters may well get away with it, but it doesn’t make it right and it doesn’t make it good practice in terms of customer service and reputation.

Almost every other poster has said similar and other workers in the industry have said their hotel wouldn’t engage in such wide-boy tactics.

We’re allowed to be annoyed and outraged about things even if legally there’s no redress. The law is often an ass. You seem to be confused about things being common practice and being acceptable. They’re not one and the same.

You seem incapable of reading and retaining what anybody else writes.

The irony of you claiming I'm not reading things and yet completely failing to do so yourself.

I've already said I understand why the OP would be annoyed, I started out just explaining WHY the hotel might restrict a morning check-in and then have been answering questions on the more general practice since then.

I've also covered the difference between a no-show and people being late, what difference giving advance notice might make and how that sometimes people benefit from a bumping policy because if you turn up late without a booking at a hotel it can be the difference between getting a room and not getting a room.

TBH I'm not even sure why people are so outraged by the idea of a business simply trying to make money. The number of people who don't show up for rooms is higher than most people would assume, and so almost all of the time hotels can resell rooms with no issues whatsoever. Anyone bumped will get compensated for it and so this perceived PR disaster just doesn't happen.

PreTeensMum · 20/08/2021 09:30

@JurassicPark101- where in West Cornwall is the hotel you booked? I’m currently in Looe (East Cornwall). If you haven’t managed to resolve this and you still want to stay the rest of your weekend away at that hotel, I might be able to help 😊

PreTeensMum · 20/08/2021 09:40

@JurassicPark101 - sorry I posted before I managed to find out that you have a friend who will book for you. Glad you sorted it but yes fully agree with you how ridiculous & unreasonable the hotel is being - Like you, I don’t understand their reasoning. Enjoy your weekend

Terhou · 20/08/2021 09:47

TBH I'm not even sure why people are so outraged by the idea of a business simply trying to make money. The number of people who don't show up for rooms is higher than most people would assume, and so almost all of the time hotels can resell rooms with no issues whatsoever. Anyone bumped will get compensated for it and so this perceived PR disaster just doesn't happen.

I can understand hotels reselling empty rooms, but in that event they really are not entitled to prevent the person who paid for the room first having access to it when they want to. They have a contract with that person and would be in clear breach of that contract. In OP's case, if they had any sense they would either decide to forgo re-selling - especially given that OP has prepaid - or give OP back the cost of one night's stay plus some sort of gesture towards compensation for the inconvenience.

SusieBob · 20/08/2021 10:06

@Terhou

TBH I'm not even sure why people are so outraged by the idea of a business simply trying to make money. The number of people who don't show up for rooms is higher than most people would assume, and so almost all of the time hotels can resell rooms with no issues whatsoever. Anyone bumped will get compensated for it and so this perceived PR disaster just doesn't happen.

I can understand hotels reselling empty rooms, but in that event they really are not entitled to prevent the person who paid for the room first having access to it when they want to. They have a contract with that person and would be in clear breach of that contract. In OP's case, if they had any sense they would either decide to forgo re-selling - especially given that OP has prepaid - or give OP back the cost of one night's stay plus some sort of gesture towards compensation for the inconvenience.

This is the thing, they are not breaking the contract. Hotel rooms are sold on a nightly basis and usually the exact room is not assigned until checkin. Most hotels will stipulate check-in times and many will have a time stated after which your room is not guaranteed.

In most cases if you turn up late and there is an empty room then sure, you will of course get access to it, but if there is literally no empty rooms then, well, that's really the fault of the person who didn't turn up on time and didn't adhere to their side of the contract.

(And, for the avoidence of doubt for the inevitable "But this doesn't apply to the OP blah blah" posters - I am talking in general terms here about the practice as a whole).

HelloDulling · 20/08/2021 10:10

OP, have a look at the Gurnard’s Head. Lovely rooms, great food, really welcoming. They have a sister place in Mousehole that I haven’t been to, as well as one in Wales that I have.

diddl · 20/08/2021 10:12

"but in that event they really are not entitled to prevent the person who paid for the room first having access to it when they want to"

But of course they are when that person then doesn't want the room!

From their POV the stay then starts on the Saturday night.

punnetofgrapes · 20/08/2021 10:33

The hotel staff are crazy - standard practise to guarantee early check-in by booking room for night before . I don't understand what they aren't getting

Barmychick · 20/08/2021 11:03

This is nuts!

Lemondrcps · 20/08/2021 11:12

I would call them back & tell them to expect you as usual on Friday night & then just turn up Saturday morning

QueenBee52 · 20/08/2021 11:58

But then after a certain time wouldn't Op just be a "no show" & the room considered available for someone else for the night?

wow ... even after taking OP's money..
that's so not right 😱

GreyhoundG1rl · 20/08/2021 12:01

@QueenBee52

But then after a certain time wouldn't Op just be a "no show" & the room considered available for someone else for the night?

wow ... even after taking OP's money..
that's so not right 😱

That's how it works when you're selling space.
JurassicPark101 · 20/08/2021 12:06

diddl but I haven’t cancelled my Friday booking. My Friday booking, if I was just staying the one night, is from 3pm Friday until 11am Saturday. I want it from 9.30 Saturday so therefore I still want my Friday booking.

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IntermittentParps · 20/08/2021 12:06

I would call them back & tell them to expect you as usual on Friday night & then just turn up Saturday morning
That's basically what the OP is doing, it's just she's using a body double for Friday night Grin

SueblueNZ · 20/08/2021 12:09

It's almost Saturday morning over here but I am being really patient to hear how it all panned out for your friend and especially you.

Criceta · 20/08/2021 12:23

SueblueNZ it’s only midday Friday here so you’ll have a bit of a wait!

sunglassesonthetable · 20/08/2021 12:44

No shit, which is why I added caveatsto the post explaining I'm not applying this directly to the OP's situation which has already been discussed.

No Shit Susie. We ARE discussing the OP's actual situation.

Not the " hotel business " as an academic whole. You seem intent in pursuing that lecture from your podium as "hotel expert". I

But never mind the experience of " hotel users". Your barking tone doesn't take their actual experience into consideration at all nor the caveats of this ACTUAL situation.

TBH I'm not even sure why people are so outraged by the idea of a business simply trying to make money.

Is ANYONE "outraged " about a business making money?😄

Nah. Didn't think so.

More pissed that ' service', in this very specific situation is working AGAINST a customer, in a very "but it's in the T&Cs , computer says no" way .

SusieBob · 20/08/2021 13:19

@sunglassesonthetable

No shit, which is why I added caveatsto the post explaining I'm not applying this directly to the OP's situation which has already been discussed.

No Shit Susie. We ARE discussing the OP's actual situation.

Not the " hotel business " as an academic whole. You seem intent in pursuing that lecture from your podium as "hotel expert". I

But never mind the experience of " hotel users". Your barking tone doesn't take their actual experience into consideration at all nor the caveats of this ACTUAL situation.

TBH I'm not even sure why people are so outraged by the idea of a business simply trying to make money.

Is ANYONE "outraged " about a business making money?😄

Nah. Didn't think so.

More pissed that ' service', in this very specific situation is working AGAINST a customer, in a very "but it's in the T&Cs , computer says no" way .

Are you new to discussion boards?

Sometimes things go on little tangents as is quite fucking obviously clear to anyone with half a brain.

But thanks for your input.

whatausername · 20/08/2021 13:24

@JurassicPark101 what time is your friend checking in? Will the hotel even notice the body double? The fact that they seemed genuinely confused by Fri vs Sat rather than concerned about reselling a room makes me think they're rather dim and unlikely to notice the two different JurassicParks

Laaaaa · 20/08/2021 13:26

Let us know what happens!

Lougle · 20/08/2021 13:39

@RaraRachael

It's ridiculous but not totally unexpected. I have an issue I need to sort out with Premier Inn which I want to email, for two reasons - 1 It's very complicated to explain 2 To leave a paper trail

I phoned to ask for an email address and was told there isn't one! When I queried that an organisation the size of Premier Inn has no email address, I was told he'd ask a supervisor.

Guess what - the supervisor says there is not email address.

Seriously the world has gone bonkers.

@RaraRachael you could try [email protected] - she's the CEO of Premier Inn.
Lougle · 20/08/2021 13:40

Or [email protected]

diddl · 20/08/2021 13:54

@JurassicPark101

diddl but I haven’t cancelled my Friday booking. My Friday booking, if I was just staying the one night, is from 3pm Friday until 11am Saturday. I want it from 9.30 Saturday so therefore I still want my Friday booking.
I thought that check in also ends by a certain time though & you wouldn't be there for that?

Well, moot point now as your friend will be checking in anyway.

SofaSpuds · 20/08/2021 13:55

[quote whatausername]@JurassicPark101 what time is your friend checking in? Will the hotel even notice the body double? The fact that they seemed genuinely confused by Fri vs Sat rather than concerned about reselling a room makes me think they're rather dim and unlikely to notice the two different JurassicParks[/quote]
I'm imagining OP's friend checking in wearing a large hat 👒, big sunglasses😎 and of course a face mask 😷

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