Some Afghanistan history

[2bazookas]

People should educate themselves about the recent history of Afghanistan, to understand why, when, how the Taliban came to exist. And to understand the country WELCOMED the Taliban when it arose ; because it was better than what went before. And before banging on about Afghan refugees today "deserting their families"; best to know that back in the 1980s millions of Afghans were slaughtered and millions more fled as refugees.

Read this and weep

< en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War>

Not really sure what your point is, as your link is incorrect but your tone is condescending AF. YABU. HTH you "educate yourself".

I weep at duff links from people claiming to be all knowledgeable.

As Alexa would say, okey dokey!

I'm not sure Wikipedia links are the best way to educate anyone really, even if the link did work.

Haven't read the link but my husband is pashtun though born in Pakistan- he said Afghan people will never ever accept foreign rule in the country essentially. Its better the other countries are not involved. Their culture is very strong and we will not understand it. I partly do as I'm married to someone from this culture. We cant try and impose our western values on those people it will never ever work.

Wikipedia link, really?

Everyone’s a Central Asia historian now, dontcha no?

Bloody hell. Read a wiki page and educate yourself. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry!

Doesn't even work anyway

Wikipedia link, really?

Anyone who doesn't have a better link than OP's should shut up until they do. She's done better than you, however worthless you want us to rate her contribution, yours is lesser, so you are in no position to sneer.

Anyone who doesn't have a better link than OP's should shut up until they do

My link is more useful than op’s

metro.co.uk/2016/03/11/watch-just-how-useful-is-a-chocolate-teapot-5746932/

OP you do realise that some of us have lived through the 80's and remember what it was like, right?

@RandomLondoner

Wikipedia link, really?

Anyone who doesn't have a better link than OP's should shut up until they do. She's done better than you, however worthless you want us to rate her contribution, yours is lesser, so you are in no position to sneer.

Wikipedia is absolutely not a reliable source in any way shape or form. It's a bit ridiculous to come on and tell people to educate themselves and provide a Wikipedia link that is not peer reviewed or even properly scrutinised for accuracy.

I wanted to read the link and maybe understand things better, but it's not a working link

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/taliban-afghanistan

This is a good background explainer.

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War
It's very late OP so I read your link but in simple English
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11451718
So it basically went
mujahideen seen as a threat Enter Russia
taliban seen as a threat Enter America
Russia getting involved for ten years before leaving
America getting involved for twenty before leaving
1926-73 Used to be a monarchy before republic and subsequent coups. Pre the small peaceful League of Nations bit, we were trying to control it because it was a pissing contest between us and Russia at the time?

We cant try and impose our western values on those people it will never ever work

It’s not even about those people, but why on earth western values are deemed best and should be imposed on anyone not in the west in the first place. But that’s another debate in itself!

@DismantledKing 😂😂😂 well said!

I think I'll go posting links to the CBeebies web page on academic forums and say "This is the best information until someone else post something, I worked hard to copy and paste that you bitches".

Would be about as fucking relevant as linking to Wikipedia

That's an excellent link snowballer thank you
So if the taliban(students) were ex-mujahideen and the US-Taliban agreement was last year (provided the Taliban cut links with Al Qaeda)
why is Dominic Raab saying no-one saw this coming?

www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-america-failed-in-afghanistan

OP where did you go? I am happy to educate myself and read any links provided (but not theses, it's too late)

Wait, is this a joke?

You post a link that doesn’t work about a war that ended in 1989 to explain why the Taliban came to power, which happened in 1996. There were still a couple of civil wars in between, so I’m not sure YOU understand, OP. You need to link about three more articles to explain those missing seven years, the genesis and rise of the Taliban, and what they were doing in 2001, which was a full 11 years after the Afghan-Soviet War. Where does Al Qaeda fit in? What about the opium fields? Since everyone is focusing on the fate of women in Afghanistan, which is worse - the Taliban’s justification of unwilling brides (female rape) as spoils of war, which they were doing in 2001, or their opponents partaking of male rape out of the belief “boys were for pleasure, women were for marriage” (the population was more against the latter, which helped the Taliban)? Who deserved protection - the boys or the women? (You can’t pick “both” because someone who does one of these things is going to be in power there).

I’m not saying the hole in your attempt at educating us is large; I’m just saying I could drive a lorry through it.