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AIBU to think woman's spread legs on gates in Festival Park Glasgow is disturbing?

211 replies

FindTheTruth · 16/08/2021 06:27

AIBU to think that installing a woman's spread legs on gates in Festival Park Glasgow is disturbing? "the gate of Assumption"

Presumably approved by Glasgow City Council. Someone on twitter says they've done a Freedom of Information request
twitter.com/lorcaat/status/1426981748894797831

Ltd Ink Corporations ‘Gateway to Govan-The Safari of Sorts, Is a series of £100 micro commissions, focused on site specific contemporary artworks. Extending beyond the parameters of our Govan headquarters, this interactive art-safari begins on the facade of our warehouse and extends to the revitalised Clyde waterfront. The walk features works by a collection of artists
ltdinkcorporation.com/Gateway-to-Govan-The-Safari-of-Sorts

AIBU to think woman's spread legs on gates in Festival Park Glasgow is disturbing?
AIBU to think woman's spread legs on gates in Festival Park Glasgow is disturbing?
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/08/2021 12:40

The artists (shit) justification:

"
@tinseltownintheframe - I am aware of the horrible attac in that park as I did research on the area especially looking at safety for women. As parks and green areas in a city are in general not safe place for women. Especially after dark (currently working on a project that comments on sexual harrasment in parks and public space) as a feminist I was aware of that it might be interpretet as sexist.... but at the same time it is trying to point out that we should not assume anything, not by how people are dressed, shirt skirts or high heels... the work is two legs in high heels, are they female? I feel the work touches upon the discourse on victim blaming in sexual harassment as well as giving the park area a feminine vibe that these green areas need. As for now parks, in iceland, glasgow or any other city are not safe for everybody.
"

AIBU to think woman's spread legs on gates in Festival Park Glasgow is disturbing?
BadgeronaMoped · 16/08/2021 12:43

Classic "artist bullshit" explanation there. Great.

WorriedWishingWell · 16/08/2021 12:43

@SweetPetrichor

It’s ugly in terms of its quality, but Festival Park is not a nice park…I wouldn’t walk through it alone even during the day. I live very local to it, and it’s probably about as accurate a bit of art for the park as you could get. It will likely end up spray painted in rangers colours soon enough anyway.
So it's a not nice park so it, and the not nice people who frequent it, are deserving of this? Would it be acceptable in Kensington Gardens?
LynetteScavo · 16/08/2021 12:45

So it's not necessarily a woman's legs, but parks need a more feminine touch.

The artist totally contradicts herself in that tweet.

I'm a bit fed up of artists taking crap after going to so many art galleries on my "staycation". This artist talking crap, which is a shame as I do like some of her work.

wiltonism · 16/08/2021 12:46

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

In which she manages to say firstly, how do we know the legs are female and then 'it brings a feminine vibe to the park'.

So I think we can ignore her as not having much of a thinking brain.

MaMelon · 16/08/2021 12:47

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

The artists (shit) justification:

"
@tinseltownintheframe - I am aware of the horrible attac in that park as I did research on the area especially looking at safety for women. As parks and green areas in a city are in general not safe place for women. Especially after dark (currently working on a project that comments on sexual harrasment in parks and public space) as a feminist I was aware of that it might be interpretet as sexist.... but at the same time it is trying to point out that we should not assume anything, not by how people are dressed, shirt skirts or high heels... the work is two legs in high heels, are they female? I feel the work touches upon the discourse on victim blaming in sexual harassment as well as giving the park area a feminine vibe that these green areas need. As for now parks, in iceland, glasgow or any other city are not safe for everybody.
"

What a load of keech.
awaynboilyurheid · 16/08/2021 12:51

Nothing suprises me now with Glasgow city council, its go to be one of the worst councils in Britain. Once again did not engage brains when comissioning this art work, but thats par for the course.
Glaswegians can usually laugh and find humour in anything but this is just offensive. Im also aghast at those saying its not a nice area,as if that justifies it, really? ?? Honestly we deserve better than these jokers.

QueenPeary · 16/08/2021 12:52

It's horrible and I hate it.

And it's not "women's legs". It's stereotyped "feminine" legs with heels and the association of unquestioning sexual availability and "opening" whenever you like. Now I see how that could be art if it was a feminist artist with something to say about that doing it in a different context but a public park where kids go wouldn't be the place for it and that's clearly not what's going on.

As women do get raped in parks it's mindbogglingly inappropriate and terrible.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 16/08/2021 12:52

@EmergencyHydrangea

Art is often meant to be disturbing
Disturbing for a good reason, maybe. What good reason can you think of for this?
Artichokeleaves · 16/08/2021 12:53

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

The artists (shit) justification:

"
@tinseltownintheframe - I am aware of the horrible attac in that park as I did research on the area especially looking at safety for women. As parks and green areas in a city are in general not safe place for women. Especially after dark (currently working on a project that comments on sexual harrasment in parks and public space) as a feminist I was aware of that it might be interpretet as sexist.... but at the same time it is trying to point out that we should not assume anything, not by how people are dressed, shirt skirts or high heels... the work is two legs in high heels, are they female? I feel the work touches upon the discourse on victim blaming in sexual harassment as well as giving the park area a feminine vibe that these green areas need. As for now parks, in iceland, glasgow or any other city are not safe for everybody.
"

Voyeuristic, pseudo intellectual wanking over VAWG.

Revolting.

kwiksavenofrillsusername · 16/08/2021 12:54

That’s tacky and so poorly done. It looks like the sort of shit art you’d see in a cheesy gay bar.

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2021 12:54

@Henrysmycat

When white men take decisions for all of us, we end up with garbage like this. I bet you, there was no woman involved in the decision making of this excremental abomination. Wtaf!
I don't know a single white man (or any other person of any sex or colour, as it happens) who would think "yeah, this is what public art should be".
midgemagneto · 16/08/2021 12:56

Feminine vibe .. legs spread wearing heels ?

Weird idea of women , Seems to be one that serves the male gaze /master

I mean even the concept of "feminine" is really just set of societal expectations around women

Currently embroidery is feminine , centuaries ago it was masculine

SpindleWhorl · 16/08/2021 12:56

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

The artists (shit) justification:

"
@tinseltownintheframe - I am aware of the horrible attac in that park as I did research on the area especially looking at safety for women. As parks and green areas in a city are in general not safe place for women. Especially after dark (currently working on a project that comments on sexual harrasment in parks and public space) as a feminist I was aware of that it might be interpretet as sexist.... but at the same time it is trying to point out that we should not assume anything, not by how people are dressed, shirt skirts or high heels... the work is two legs in high heels, are they female? I feel the work touches upon the discourse on victim blaming in sexual harassment as well as giving the park area a feminine vibe that these green areas need. As for now parks, in iceland, glasgow or any other city are not safe for everybody.
"

That's a really offensive drivel of excuses.
BuffysBigSister · 16/08/2021 12:59

I think the installation is being removed today or tomorrow although how it was allowed in the first place is a mystery.

NeedToKnow101 · 16/08/2021 12:59

Totally offensive in this context. Glad to hear it's being taken down, although I'm sure the women of Glasgow would have removed it anyway. That anyone could think this was any way appropriate in that setting, or at the gates of any public park tbh, beggars belief.

Can't believe the artist defended it being used there either.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/08/2021 13:01

@BuffysBigSister

I think the installation is being removed today or tomorrow although how it was allowed in the first place is a mystery.
It has been removed:

twitter.com/Malcolm4Linn/status/1427233186812137472?s=09

GrandmaSteglitszch · 16/08/2021 13:05

Maybe they're not female legs? Yeah, right.
In the artist's original work there are two pairs of legs.
It's obvious which are female and which are male.
There was no effort to make them look androgynous.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 16/08/2021 13:06

Excellent news that it's gone!

OwlIceCrem · 16/08/2021 13:07

It doesn’t even work… legs don’t open that way. If you are opening your legs you move your knees the opposite way to the way they would go on a gate. I know I’m missing the point of the thread but this is the main reason of many for me that it is trash.

HeronLanyon · 16/08/2021 13:08

They can be as positive as they want about sex workers in the park. This however sends a message to everyone that the park is a place of women opening their legs. Literally. What o. Earth ! Absolutely awful when women feel unsafe in almost every open public space as it is and parks in particular. All women - sex workers and those who are not sex workers.
Whether it is interesting or has a message or whatever I’m not sure but I am sure it should not be where it is.
If I lived locally I would definitely make strong and urgent complaints. I would also consider joining pp in erecting something or cover it or comment on it or remove it etc.

Westchesterarms · 16/08/2021 13:09

@Henrysmycat

When white men take decisions for all of us, we end up with garbage like this. I bet you, there was no woman involved in the decision making of this excremental abomination. Wtaf!
Seriously, how have you made this into a racial issue? Or maybe, why have you made this into a racial issue?!
HeronLanyon · 16/08/2021 13:10

Oops see it has been removed. Thank god ! Apols for not reading whole thread.

seasonalremarks · 16/08/2021 13:15

If I was in Glasgow I would be down there with some power tools to remove it now.

SpindleWhorl · 16/08/2021 13:17

The Govan councillors helped to get it removed. Good for them, and the other councillors.