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AIBU?

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Which neighbour is being unreasonable?

242 replies

Neighbourshateeachother · 15/08/2021 18:46

Neighbour A runs (ran) a small online business from home (pre pandemic). During the lockdown as more people were buying online business went up. Due to nature of the business a large lorry would visit neighbour A weekly to deliver stock and sometimes Ups / DHL would make visits to collect / deliver.

Neighbour B has young children and likes them to play outside and didn’t didn’t like the ‘busyness’ of the street which is a nice quiet cul de sac. Neighbour B reported neighbour A to the council and got the business shut down.

Neighbour A found out neighbour B was responsible for this and told everyone in the street both in person and on the street WhatsApp chat.

Other residents of the street now feel awkward. Who IBU neighbour A or B?

OP posts:
debwong · 15/08/2021 20:57

@OhDearWhyHasThisHappened

OMG I live on this street, I am one of the residents 🤣🤣

Op was the lorry in question blue?

Me too.

I also reported it because I only like red lorries or yellow lorries.

Tomnooktoldmeto · 15/08/2021 20:58

I live in a quiet close like this, for the last 18 months a neighbour has been having full sized articulated lorries delivering 1-2 times a week and yes they are full sized not 2.5 or 7.5 tonnes, they then reverse down our narrow close 70 metres which just is not safe before reversing into the next close before they can get to a less minor road

They time this for bin emptying day and we often get a Mexican standoff between the two, it’s crap

I wish I was braver and feel like I should contact the council as it’s been quite dangerous at times entering the road to find them reversing at me

Lorries belong on main roads and industrial estates where my DH’s employers lorries are not in residential areas

TopBlogger · 15/08/2021 21:00

Cant vote as I have no idea whether you are A or B Hmm

SoNotRainbowRhythms · 15/08/2021 21:00

Neighbour B should be supervising her kids anyway if they are too young or not developed enough to know how to cope with traffic. Or she could have asked for a heads up which days were delivery days.

FawnFrenchieMum · 15/08/2021 21:01

Our neighbour runs a business that sells on Amazon, he has business premises to make the stock but keeps the stock in his garage, UPS come once per day to collect the stock for Amazon. It’s never ever crossed my mind to report him to the council. I don’t get it.

Iloveginger · 15/08/2021 21:03

@Tomnooktoldmeto

I live in a quiet close like this, for the last 18 months a neighbour has been having full sized articulated lorries delivering 1-2 times a week and yes they are full sized not 2.5 or 7.5 tonnes, they then reverse down our narrow close 70 metres which just is not safe before reversing into the next close before they can get to a less minor road

They time this for bin emptying day and we often get a Mexican standoff between the two, it’s crap

I wish I was braver and feel like I should contact the council as it’s been quite dangerous at times entering the road to find them reversing at me

Lorries belong on main roads and industrial estates where my DH’s employers lorries are not in residential areas

We've had something similar were I live, but its a neighbour getting gardening and building supplies delivered, not someone running an online business.
godmum56 · 15/08/2021 21:04

MauveMagnolia Sun 15-Aug-21 20:31:15

"Depends. All manufacturing is banned in our area under covenants. Been advised it is enforceable and has been tested relatively recently."

I don't think covenants are enforced by the council unless they are the ones who "own" the covenant?

Whydidimarryhim · 15/08/2021 21:04

We have an idiot down my road who deals in second hand used cars - he takes up all the spaces.
He’s not got his home registered as a business. It’s illegal. He’s not affected me but if he had I’d report him.

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 15/08/2021 21:04

no idea how to vote???

for that alone YBU

godmum56 · 15/08/2021 21:05

debwong Sun 15-Aug-21 20:57:37
OhDearWhyHasThisHappened
OMG I live on this street, I am one of the residents 🤣🤣

Op was the lorry in question blue?
Me too.

I also reported it because I only like red lorries or yellow lorries.

Grin what colour leather do you two like?

LoverOfAllThingsPurple · 15/08/2021 21:07

Neighbour B was incredibly selfish.

LaikO · 15/08/2021 21:09

Neighbour B is spiteful and petty.

MaggieFS · 15/08/2021 21:10

@OhDearWhyHasThisHappened

OMG I live on this street, I am one of the residents 🤣🤣

Op was the lorry in question blue?

More importantly, was it a nuisance?
Skiptheheartsandflowers · 15/08/2021 21:10

neighbour A must’ve been running their business without some kind of correct process for it to be shut down.

This. More to it than meets the eye.

Iloveginger · 15/08/2021 21:10

@Garriet.
Yes. Neighbour A would have to be living a huge converted property to be taking so many deliveries and collections to cause inconvenience.
If they are doing that well, then surely the best thing to do would be to find a commercial premises to work from and keep expanding. Strange to just close it down Also, I'm sure the council would need to serve notice and this would give you time to make other arrangements.
This is either made up, or there are bits missing from the story.

alexa677 · 15/08/2021 21:15

@Neighbourshateeachother

But I’ve already explained, council said it was fine as long as it wasn’t an inconvenience to other residents. Neighbour B kept making complaints stating it was an inconvenience
Surely for the council to stop the business neighbour A would need to have evidence or examples of how it has inconvenienced them. I doubt someone can just claim they're inconvenienced and the council say "oh don't worry we'll close them down"?

I'd expect them to review evidence and views and come to a conclusion

alexa677 · 15/08/2021 21:17

Sorry, got it the wrong way round. I meant neighbour B

BritWifeInUSA · 15/08/2021 21:18

If this was “during lockdown” why were B’s children playing in the street so much?

FWIW I think the lockdown rules y’all had there were ridiculous and I probably would have let my children play outside all day but if you’re going to go full Stasi on someone and report them for every transgression, expect your own behavior to be scrutinized too.

Bloodypunkrockers · 15/08/2021 21:19

B didn't have the business closed down. It was the council

And if A's business was above board then they wouldn't have been closed down

CovidCorvid · 15/08/2021 21:21

Think it depends how big the large lorry was……I do think if it was a hgv coming to a residential close that’s a bit much.

CovidCorvid · 15/08/2021 21:22

@BritWifeInUSA

If this was “during lockdown” why were B’s children playing in the street so much?

FWIW I think the lockdown rules y’all had there were ridiculous and I probably would have let my children play outside all day but if you’re going to go full Stasi on someone and report them for every transgression, expect your own behavior to be scrutinized too.

Exercise was always allowed. Playing in a cul de sac if sticking to your family group would have been within the rules?
JaggedLittlePilI · 15/08/2021 21:24

@Killahangilion If you read the gov.uk site for how to set up as a sole trader you'll see that you don't need to do those things to trade legally as you say. Literally the first thing on the gov page on business rates says you 'Business rates are charged on non-domestic properties'. Are you self-employed yourself?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2021 21:24

More to it than meets the eye

Yep

Even the most ridiculous council won't do this on one person's say so - too easy for it to be a vendetta
They might if numerous people complained though, and if that's the case I suspect the nuisance will have been a lot worse than OP said

BritWifeInUSA · 15/08/2021 21:25

No way did the business get closed down because if a weekly delivery. It was likely more than that because a weekly delivery wouldn’t have a sane person complaining to the council. Especially if this was “during lockdown” when practically everyone in the country was getting weekly deliveries of something - groceries, school supplies, home gym equipment, books, DVDs, games, toys, garden supplies. etc.

itcouldhave · 15/08/2021 21:26

I live in a quiet close like this, for the last 18 months a neighbour has been having full sized articulated lorries delivering 1-2 times a week

I’m not trying to be funny here, but what an earth can two full size artics be delivering to a single household in one week and where the fuck are they keeping it? That’s a LOT of storage in a residential street.