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...to feel like there is only so much I can do to make plans with my mom?

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CheerfulYank · 12/08/2021 09:22

I haven’t started an AIBU thread in probably 6 or 7 years, this feels rather nostalgic 😂

Anyway, there has been tension surrounding my kids and how often they see my parents since my daughter (DC2) was born, and she’s 8 now. I think it might just always be this way, but it’s recently kicked up again so...I don’t know.

DH and I have three children (14, 8, and 6). They are my parent’s only grandchildren. We live about 300 miles away from my mom and dad, so about a 5 hour drive. That isn’t terribly far for the states, but neither is it a drive you want to do every other weekend or anything.

When DS1 was our only child, they saw him quite a lot...my mom was more active then and since it was just him, it was much easier for them to take him for long weekends etc. But he went to full time school when he was 6, which coincided with the birth of DD, so it just wasn’t as easy to pack him off when school was part of the mix. Consequently they feel that they do not have the same relationship with DD and DS2 as they did with our oldest boy, which is probably true.

A few factors: I don’t drive. So DH has to come any time we go visit, and he can’t get a ton of time off of work. Currently he works remotely on Mondays and Fridays, but my parents have spotty internet access so there’s no guarantee he could work at theirs.

I work usually 25-30 hours a week. We’re incredibly short staffed at the moment, and most days off have to be put in the month before. It’s not likely I’ll be able to get any extra time off in the next few weeks. I’m also on our City Council, which (even though it’s just a tiny city) keeps me incredibly busy with meetings etc and also things just pop up (for instance one of our police officers was assaulted last week and there were things to set in motion there; I was called in at 2 a.m.)

My dad works most days except Thursday and Saturday. He can get time off too but also has to request it in advance.

They have two bigger dogs. We have a dog, who can come with us when we visit, and a cat, bearded dragon, and guinea pigs, who cannot.

I want my kids to have a good relationship with my parents. I truly do. They adore each other and of course I like to see them too, it just doesn’t happen as often as it maybe should because of all the moving factors.

The biggest thing right now (and the point of this AIBU, I promise I do have one!) is that even when we do make plans, my mom’s health will cause issues at the last minute, which is of course not her fault.

She isn’t terminally ill or anything like that, thank God, but she does have migraines a lot (so doesn’t work) and also has a bad knee, gets motion sick, things like that.

So for example, the kids were going to go up to see them and stay for a week around the 4th of July. They hadn’t seen them since the winter due to COVID and they were really really excited to go.

I couldn’t get away because the 4th is our busiest weekend at work, so we’d planned for DH to take the kids and meet my dad half way, hand them off, and then he’d come home while my dad took them back to theirs. Then DH and I would pick them up later in the week and stay for a few days with my parents as well, before heading home.

A week before that happened, though, my mom got a call that her knee surgery (which she didn’t expect to take place until the fall) had been unexpectedly moved up and she could have it done right after the 4th, which meant they couldn’t have the kids.

Obviously none of that was her fault and I was really relieved for her that she was getting the surgery, but that was kind of the only week it was going to work for us.

I can’t get time off anymore, we can’t get pet sitters on short notice, and now DS1 has school and sports obligations starting next week.

This has happened, honestly, quite a bit. We’ll have plans and then a health reason will derail them, which I completely understand—but my mom never counts those times I had everything set up for a visit and then it didn’t happen on their end.

She’s been messaging me lately about how she never sees them and we never come there and all this other stuff, about how it’s ridiculous she isn’t going to see them at all this summer. I know she’s just upset and loves us and all but I don’t know how to explain that it takes a lot of planning on our end and I can’t just magically move things to a week or two later, regardless of how valid the reason is.

Additionally (sorry, this is a freaking novel, but I don’t want to drip feed), I offer alternatives a lot but those don’t work either. There’s a lovely city halfway in between us and I talk a lot about how it would be nice to meet there and just have a day out...take the kids to the aquarium or the zoo, visit the gorgeous parks, eat at a restaurant that isn’t your usual small town greasy spoon...but she always says no. She wants them/us at her house and that’s it.

This year I told her we’re going to a big water park near Christmas as the kid’s main Christmas present, so we can’t travel to theirs, but I said I would love for them to come with us and we would get them a room, or else we can arrange a visit here around Christmas before we go. She’s not pleased with either option.

I know she can’t help her health, but some of the other things it seems like she just wants what she wants, regardless of anyone else’s schedule. When she gets like this, she makes me feel like I’m some cruel person deliberately keeping the kids from her, and that just isn’t the case.

Oh, and I had planned on sending the younger 2 to see them starting the 21st (DS1 can’t go, but they can) and my mom said definitely to plan on it. But now she’s saying something about a Dr’s visit on the 25th or something? So she doesn’t know if it will work.

Sorry this was so long. AIBU to feel like there isn’t a great solution here? How often is reasonable to go to theirs? (When there isn’t a pandemic, anyway)?

OP posts:
Brogues · 12/08/2021 09:44

Could you send the kids alone (but chaperoned) on a plane or train?

CheerfulYank · 12/08/2021 09:48

Brogues no, unfortunately there’s nothing like that here. Well, we HAVE planes of course, but it’s a two hour drive in the other direction to the airport, and then I think there isn’t actually another airport near my parents. No trains, and the buses go a long weird route that would mean a 14-16 hour ride for the children.

It’s actually not a huge deal to send them for a long weekend when they have time off from school; we just meet my dad in the middle and he takes them to theirs. But it seems like even when we do plan that, it gets derailed almost every other time.

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GoWalkabout · 12/08/2021 09:57

Its not your fault. It is just complicated. They can choose how to make it easier but you can't move the earth. You need to tell her that and then rinse and repeat.

CruCru · 12/08/2021 09:57

I think you’ve made quite a lot of effort. Realistically, it may be that it will not be possible to please your mother. You’ve offered ways for her to spend time with your children.

CheerfulYank · 12/08/2021 10:07

GoWalkabout thanks. I think I just need to come up with a “script” because that’s what works for my mom most of the time, and keeps me from getting too flustered and apologetic when she catches me off guard.

She was really overbearing and too involved about certain things when DS1 was little, and I once I learned to just breezily say “yes, but this isn’t about you” as many times as it took, she backed down.

I’ll have to think of something similar for this Smile

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spooney21 · 12/08/2021 10:18

I think this this is the reality of living far away from family, and having a number of restrictions- kids, animals, jobs, not driving. Sorry I've no suggestions, but i moved back to near my family after I had dc as I wanted them to have a good relationship with my parents/ aunts/cousins etc.

CheerfulYank · 12/08/2021 10:23

That’s probably my mom’s ultimate goal, spooney. She used to talk about us moving back a lot.

However all of their cousins are here, as well as their other grandparents and many aunts and uncles.

It all just seems weirdly complicated.

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Soozikinzi · 12/08/2021 10:26

It's not your fault at all.
You've tried to meet your dad half way what more can you do ? Just suggest doing that again? Perhaps they could go separately that might be easier to organise? My sons , I have 5 and1 stepson, used to love doing that and getting a bit spoiled at their gmas ? Hope you get something sorted but please don't feel guilty you're obviously trying your best to include them x

Quickchangeartiste · 12/08/2021 10:30

I feel for you. I have a MIL who has constant health niggles, real or imagined in her case, which constantly derail plans, and then she gets upset etc…
I think you need to be really direct with your mum, explain to her , as you have to us, the logistics involved in your lives, and the fact that, though it’s no-one’s fault , last minute changes just do not work for your family. I would also be telling her that she needs to meet you halfway, on this, both figuratively , and literally.
Are you an only child? I just wonder whether she ever had to juggle the activities of multiple children/ family members when she was a younger woman?
So may be just start with, ‘Mom, you know we love you and the kids adore time spent with you..but the reality of our lives is that it just can’t be spontaneous. With school, activities, work ( both ours & Dad’s) , time together requires a lot of planning and last minute changes don’t work for us. Now, what can we each do to make this easier?’
It’s not just on you. 💐

WhatsMyNameGonnaBeNow · 12/08/2021 10:30

You and your dh have three school age dc, two jobs and all the usual life commitments that go with these. Plus a distance of 300 miles between you and your parents. That’s reality. Your mother doesn’t like that reality but her being unhappy with it doesn’t actually change reality. I think you need to state this to her, not as an excuse or apology but as a matter of fact.

Ok, so she can’t help her health issues but she could acknowledge that these also have a bearing as it puts the onus on you to make all the effort. Instead, it seems like she’s choosing to put her unhappiness at the situation on you to fix.

The question how often is reasonable to go to them is one only you can answer but that decision shouldn’t be based on feelings of guilt or obligation.

Luannee · 12/08/2021 11:02

Why can't they come to you? That sounds like the easiest solution.

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