To be annoyed about this info on the NHS website re: vasectomies?

[CarolinaWeeper]

DH has decided it's probably time he got the snip. We have two DC and won't be having any more. He was doing some research about the procedure on the NHS website and right at the top of the list is info on how female condoms work and a bit further down, questions about the contraceptive pill. I don't know whether I'm overreacting but it just made me so cross that even when men are looking into their sterelisation options they are still pointed to information that could sway them towards female contraception. I don't want to take the pill, I don't want hormonal treatment and sterelising DH would be quicker and simpler than sterelising me. I may be reading too much into it but it just seems like contraception is always seen as the woman's problem.

AIBU?

YANBU - that's shameful! The emphasis on women to take control of contraception is a cultural phenomenon that needs to change.

I haven't looked at the website but is this not just advice for after they've had the vasectomy for the time you have to wait before it can be confirmed it was definitely successful?

Fucking typical. YANBU at all.

I don’t see any mention of condoms on here.

Yanbu at all.

YABU - the bit you have clicked is the drop down menu for the whole guide to contraception page - it's not a specific page just about vasectomies - it covers vasectomies as part of the guide!

@AnneLovesGilbert

I don’t see any mention of condoms on here.

you will if you click on the same bit you did before!

@girlmom21 I don't think so, it's in the Getting Started section so literally one of the first things you see. To be fair to DH he was the one that pointed it out to me asking why this was really relevant. Because, misogyny.

[quote CarolinaWeeper]@girlmom21 I don't think so, it's in the Getting Started section so literally one of the first things you see. To be fair to DH he was the one that pointed it out to me asking why this was really relevant. Because, misogyny.[/quote]
I just had a look at both female and male and you're right - both 'getting started' sections mention female condoms as a first port of call, which is strange considering they're probably the least used form of contraception!

Here

@ghostyslovesheets

YABU - the bit you have clicked is the drop down menu for the whole guide to contraception page - it's not a specific page just about vasectomies - it covers vasectomies as part of the guide!

It's the 'getting started' bit that was selected. Check them both. They both talk about female condoms first.

The contraception section then lists all contraception in alphabetical order.

This will be based on their data about what pages people who look at the page on vasectomies also visit/search for. It's about helping people get the info they are looking for as quickly as possible.

Not sure why it’s an issue that it’s first ? They both list contraception as it’s a guide to contraception

@ghostyslovesheets

Not sure why it’s an issue that it’s first ? They both list contraception as it’s a guide to contraception

The getting started section should link to information about the procedure. Not first mention female condoms. That's the issue.

@ghostyslovesheets ah so the Getting Started section is for all methods of contraception? It looks weird on mobile because you are in the info about vasectomies section, click getting started and the first thing is "female condom."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/family_planning/3541419-a-question-about-vasectomies

I remember watching this episode.

Yeah I think it’s just the way the mobile page is - lap top it’s across the top as a drop down menu but the page only discusses the type of contraception picked eg vasectomy

Yeah it's the same drop down menu for all methods of contraception. Can understand your initial reaction though.

It's a really badly set up website. If you click on the 'Which is best for me'?' menu in the 'vasectomy (male sterilisation)' section the second option it brings up is 'Methods that may help painful or heavy periods'. So it looks like they offer exactly the same options and menus (which are mostly focused on female-operated methods of contraception) regardless of what type of contraception is being considered. I think it's sexist in both directions: as you say, it reinforces the already very strong general perception that contraception is a female issue, but it's also not very helpful for men who are trying to research their options to have to wade through menus quite clearly designed to help women.
As a side note, I really wish men would take more responsibility about this kind of thing. I have a friend who has had five children. She had to have a c-section for one of them, and suffered serious tearing with another. Her husband really, really does not want more kids but refuses to consider a vasectomy (apparently it's emasculating). He's putting pressure on her to go back on the pill, even though she hated being on the pill. I think five pregnancies and five births, with varying degrees of physical trauma, plus five periods of breast feeding, means that she's done her bit on the reproductive front (even without taking into account the years she was on the pill before they had childen). Time for him to f*ing man up and step up. But that's just my view.

@RoseAndGeranium I completely agree with you! Your friend sounds like she's married to a massive man-child. Luckily it's been DH's suggestion that he gets a vasectomy but you're right that he doesn't need to wade through information on heavy periods when he's trying to research the procedure!

I asked my GP to refer me to be sterilised, but they don't fund it in my area apparently. But DH can have a vasectomy! I pointed out that I didn't phone to ask about vasectomy, I want a permanent solution to make sure we have no more babies.

Apparently the coil is long term. But the point is, I don't want a foreign body put in my uterus for the next 5 years, or take hormonal contraceptives (which make me, at best depressed, at the worst... suicidal). My husband is thinking about vasectomy (but isn't keen, for a variety of reasons) and needs more time.

But, I was informed that I should have asked to be sterilised during my last child's c-section birth, they would have done it then because I was already open. Well silly me, now all I need to do is invent time travel and go back 2 years!

DP phoned his GP to be referred for a vasectomy. The first 10 minutes of the phone call was the GP explaining to DP all the types of contraception I could use so that he wouldn’t have to have the procedure!

@Florencenotflo

It's quite invasive and crucially expensive to sterilise women, it's cheap for men and performed in some gp surgeries even. They tend to only fund female if there's mitigating circumstances as to why it's essential