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To almost wish I hadn’t been privy to this information-what would you do??

82 replies

Allthegoodnamesgoneffs · 09/08/2021 14:18

For context, I live abroad in a beautiful place that relies heavily on tourism for its income. Majority of people born and bred here have been hit hard financially by covid, very hard, they don’t have the same benefits etc as they do in U.K., businesses have been closing and people really really struggling.
The covid figures are fairly low, everything has opened back up for summer.

This morning I took my toddler Dd to a local
hotel soft play, it’s part of a huge water park, packed with holiday makers. We went into the quiet part and had a nice morning, all was fine.
Dp texted at lunch asking what we were up to etc, normal lunchtime text, I told him where we’d been and he said to be very careful as the hotel and water park is full of staff who’ve tested positive for covid 🤷🏻‍♀️I had no idea, he told me his colleagues wife works there and told his colleague that they’re trying to keep it quiet at the hotel/water park so that it doesn’t get closed down again (has been closed down so many times before) he said wife is negative but tests every other day and all the workers (including her) desperately need their jobs.
I’m hoping we’re ok as I literally sat on a chair outside watching her and didn’t order a drink from the bar staff etc.
There are so so many holiday makers there, albeit mainly young families and kids, due to the water park, but, this is wrong, isn’t it 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
Looubylou · 09/08/2021 17:08

What would you do anyway OP? - run round shouting everybody out?

Original poster
Allthegoodnamesgoneffs · 09/08/2021 17:12

@Looubylou No, can’t do anything and likely wouldn’t anyway, it was just to be given this information 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
TSSDNCOP · 09/08/2021 17:18

If there are this many people walking around positive surely it would be noticeable? Most people with Covid look/sound sick (yes, I know some can be asymptomatic) if there were that many it would surely look and sound like a sanatorium?

callmeadoctor · 09/08/2021 17:22

I wonder how many of her "friends" has this woman told of all these covid positive staff? Hmm

CallmeHendricks · 09/08/2021 17:39

Interesting how, when it's a story about Covid (or whatever) that doesn't suit people, they have to dismiss it as being gossip with no foundation.

Doodlebug71 · 09/08/2021 17:45

@lljkk

What are the rules where you are, OP about exposure & isolating? I don't care what uK rules say, what are the rules where you are?

One day we will have to treat covid like any other common cold virus.

I speak most mornings with a CEV person whose daughter works in a UK ICU. Covid is not "any other common cold virus." Unlike covid, a cold is usually harmless.

Some interesting comments about CEV people, here too. I wonder when people are going to start giving a shit about CV and CEV people again.

If this is true, and not just gossip, they are knowingly allowing CV+ive staff to continue risking everyone using the facility, as well as everyone they come into contact with. Nice. That'll be some terrible PR when it comes out.

TSSDNCOP · 09/08/2021 17:46

The clear majority haven't dismissed; most have made suggestions (stay away and warn others), queried if it is true what OP could reasonably do (which is by her own admission likely nothing given her sympathy for the folks economic situation) or questionned the scale of the problem.

What would your suggestion be to OP @CallmeHendricks?

Thewinterofdiscontent · 09/08/2021 17:48

My local pub employs lots of young bar/waiting staff and they have had sporadic Covid outbreaks . The pub never shuts down. Staff on duty just get isolated and tested. Of those that pick it up mostly they don’t have symptoms and quite a few don’t test positive.
So basically saying Covid us rife means nothing. Even if they are all ridden in 10 days they’ll all be clear anyway.

NoSquirrels · 09/08/2021 17:51

‘Full of staff who’ve tested positive for Covid’ - sounds like it’s not true, regardless of the source.

Workers worried for their jobs just aren’t going to get tested. They won’t go get a test and then go to work anyway - why waste time on a test you know you’ll ignore?

I wouldn’t give this much credence, I’m afraid.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/08/2021 17:51

[quote Allthegoodnamesgoneffs]@Savannahnanana The info has come from our friend and dps colleagues wife, who works there, she just told her Dh, who mentioned it to Dp after he said I’d taken Dd there to play. So she wants to keep it quiet (she needs her job) but was passing on to us to say don’t go. Isn’t gossip as she works there and knows about all the staff.[/quote]
That's the absolute definition of gossip.

BluebellsGreenbells · 09/08/2021 18:03

Not much you can do really.

The hotels are irresponsible and desperate for workers and obviously holiday makers.

People going on holiday will know the risks they take and the isolation rules.

If they catch covid and have to isolate anywhere and it costs them a fortune that’s on then - I hope they are fully insured should they need treatment.

I’d be careful round local shops etc as a precaution.

PieceOfString · 09/08/2021 18:28

MrsRobinsonsHandprints "The holiday makers have chosen to take the risk and sit in an airport and aeroplane and be served by the locals.

If there are no benefits, no government support these people have No Choice."

Posters on here need to be careful, pontifying from ivory towers.

This imo. Do nothing. The staff are people living between a rock and a hard place.

threatmatrix · 10/08/2021 18:01

We have a PCR pandemic not a Covid one. Even the man who invented it says it’s not fit for purpose. Most of them will probably be false positives.

Owl55 · 10/08/2021 18:14

If you go to another country on holiday you have to accept the risks of one of your family catching covid , especially if the residents of that country have not been vaccinated or they employ staff from nearby countries who have poor medical care and not vaccinated. Lots of countries including ours U K have not told the full truth about covid figures . I wouldn’t trust some of the medical treat if I caught covid abroad , particulary Mexico one of the poorest

annacondom · 10/08/2021 19:36

It's a difficult one about warning your friends. I think it's best not to say anything except along the lines of taking precautions generally. If so many people are ill at this hotel then some are bound to be coughing or unable to work, so it'll be discovered.

AnTeallach · 10/08/2021 19:43

@Doodlebug71
Totally agree - Covid is not "any other common cold virus".

There's still so much ignorance about the effects of Covid on previously healthy people. I had a mild dose of Covid 16mths ago, got Long Covid last autumn and have a heart condition as a result. My lungs are also still dodgy from the LC-related pneumonia I had in January. I was one of the last people folk expected this to happen to.

To all of you keen to take holidays abroad and get life back to where it was before, good luck. I'm double-vaccinated, but as lots of others have learned to their cost, that doesn't stop you from getting Covid. If I have another - even mild - dose, I hate to think what further damage it might do to my organs. So please don't dismiss those of us who are now at greater risk with a 'life's got to get back to normal' . Accept that our risk tolerances are different, for all sorts of good reasons, and please do what you can to help avoid spreading this horrendous disease.

OliviaNewtAndJohn · 10/08/2021 19:46

Are you in an EU country?

Itsthendoftheworldasweknowit · 10/08/2021 19:53

@AnTeallach So sorry to hear, 17 months here and still suffering some effects. What’s your heart condition? I still have sureness around the heart area and chest

AnTeallach · 10/08/2021 20:03

@Itsthendoftheworldasweknowit
You too, and commiserations! I have AF. Hope you're getting the help you need?

LC's had a lot more media coverage lately - not that you'd know from many of the comments on Mumsnet!

niugboo · 10/08/2021 20:15

I would report them. Without a shred of regret or hesitation.

It’s hideous.

DameFanny · 10/08/2021 20:37

@threatmatrix

We have a PCR pandemic not a Covid one. Even the man who invented it says it’s not fit for purpose. Most of them will probably be false positives.
Complete misinformation

And the guy that invented the PCR died years ago, so is in no position to talk about the efficacy for covid

He did however go off the rails and try to persuade the world that there was no such thing as AIDS...

Maximum71 · 10/08/2021 22:52

@Allthegoodnamesgoneffs
All the staff with Covid are still working .... luckily they aren't very sick then..?
most of the holiday makers will be vaccinated.
if I were you I would just carry on business as usual. Doesn't sound like it's a serious variant.

sst1234 · 11/08/2021 00:02

It’s a virus, it’s everywhere. We need to stop getting worked up, worried, anxious etc about it. If you’re so worried, get vaccinated and then just get on with it rather than playing detective about who has the virus, who is wearing a mask, who is social distancing. It’s not healthy to have this obsession.

Hankunamatata · 11/08/2021 00:04

If work doesn't pay to isolate or pays stat sick pay then your going to go to work as cant afford to stay home. Happens in uk

Doodlebug71 · 11/08/2021 00:22

@sst1234

It’s a virus, it’s everywhere. We need to stop getting worked up, worried, anxious etc about it. If you’re so worried, get vaccinated and then just get on with it rather than playing detective about who has the virus, who is wearing a mask, who is social distancing. It’s not healthy to have this obsession.
What a load of ignorant claptrap. Which part of "the vaccination doesn't prevent a person from contracting, not spreading it" did you ignore?