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Families should have more space than couples

274 replies

CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 08:19

Employer provides accommodation, existing employees can request to move within as needed. AIBU to expect that a family would get the larger accommodation over a couple?

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MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 09/08/2021 08:46

You couldn't reasonably expect a couple to move out of accommodation they were already living in just because a new employee has children. People create homes, even in staff accommodation.

CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 08:47

@Sirzy yes it is compulsory

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54321nought · 09/08/2021 08:48

[quote CrunchiestCru]@HelloDulling that’s it, it seems to be based on whoever asked first or knows someone rather than based on need[/quote]
payment is never based on need.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 09/08/2021 08:48

If you are asking, Should there be a clear accommodation policy with priorities set out, then YANBU. Unclear rules do lead to resentment. It shouldn't be based on who you know or popularity.

(And those mentioning Military...they do take family size into account. They have overcrowding rules, including not having opposite sex children sharing)

RandomMess · 09/08/2021 08:50

Sounds like they need a clear and open policy.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 09/08/2021 08:51

X posted with you. I think in the situation you set out, I'd give the family with DC a bigger house, so long as the difference was basically just additional bedrooms and both houses were equally nice and had access to the same facilities.
Once you start getting into better location/facilities then a couple with no children aren't less important than a couple with dc.

CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 08:51

@54321nought payment no but accommodation provision yes

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DoubleTweenQueen · 09/08/2021 08:52

@CrunchiestCru If accommodation has been allocated but not moved into yet, have you double checked the allocation with the person that does the allocating? Perhaps am error was made?

CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 08:52

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously no one is being asked to move out of accommodation they’re already in. It’s a case of assigning accommodation before anyone moves anywhere

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CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 08:53

To be clear again this isn’t me it’s happening to, I’m a two person family but it’s happening to others I work with. No mistakes made, no changes either just get on with it or ask to swap

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54321nought · 09/08/2021 08:55

[quote CrunchiestCru]@54321nought payment no but accommodation provision yes[/quote]
but the accommodation provision is part of the payment. So you don't get more because you have reproduced more.

Potatoy · 09/08/2021 08:55

@CrunchiestCru

To be clear again this isn’t me it’s happening to, I’m a two person family but it’s happening to others I work with. No mistakes made, no changes either just get on with it or ask to swap
If there's enough room for the whole family in the house then I don't see what the problem is. It's free housing. I don't get a bigger salary if I have more kids.
MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 09/08/2021 08:56

If living on site is compulsory, then an employee needs to ensure the housing is good enough before taking the job. If an employer made a commitment about upgrading accommodation as soon as it becomes available,then that needs to be written into the employee's job offer. Each party's obligations needs to be written and not taken on trust or verbal agreement.
If you are working for a big company, they should have written policies that you can ask to see.

54321nought · 09/08/2021 08:56

so no, families with children are not entitled to bigger space, in this set up

Ylvamoon · 09/08/2021 08:57

So what is the actual policy?
And what is the difference in accommodation? Is it just floor space or actual bedrooms?
Assuming the couple "got their first" via who you know seems a bit odd.

54321nought · 09/08/2021 08:58

whats the job?

21Bee · 09/08/2021 08:59

I’ve previously been provided accommodation with jobs. Certain houses were provided to specific roles (i.e farm manager, head gardener). Other staff were assigned houses based on availability and their circumstances, if somebody started a family then they’d be moved to any available larger house. Sometimes it would involve evicting private tenants to accommodate staff.

Ideasplease322 · 09/08/2021 09:00

I agree more details are needed.

Have you been given sufficient number of beds and bedrooms?

Is the coupe, in a six bedroom house while you are in two bed?

I agree that you should be given sufficient space you accommodate your children, but you shouldn’t automatically get the biggest house. It’s your choice to have children, while you should be given adequate space, it doesn’t mean you have to have the biggest or best house.

I say this as a single person who has recently purchased a four bed house. I am sick of people commenting on why I need so much space, and people describing my house as a family house. Why can’t I have a nice large kitchen and living room? Why should I have cramped living space just because i live alone.

OaxacaChihuahua · 09/08/2021 09:01

Yabu to suggest that a couple isn’t a family, but generally yes, it would make sense for bigger families to have bigger houses. That said, I wouldn’t expect a couple to have to move from a house in which they’re established to make way for a larger family.

RedToothBrush · 09/08/2021 09:02

The problem with this thread is it reads as if its bitter and vindictive about a situation.

Thats why people are wary about the circumstances.

It depends on the situation. There could be circumstances that are obvious. As in some one could be about to have a family.

Without knowing the details i think posters are unwilling to bite because of the tone of the original post.

Knittingupastorm · 09/08/2021 09:06

It depends on the situation but I’d say generally that if living on site is compulsory, then yes I’d expect the employer to make sure the accommodation was sufficient for different family sizes eg appropriate number of bedrooms. If nothing else, it makes sense from an employee retention point of view. You’d end up with all the employees with children leaving if they were squeezed into somewhere tiny with only one bedroom, for example.

itsgettingwierd · 09/08/2021 09:10

I think a clear policy is needed as there is so many a variables.

But I think things like a couple and a couple with 1 child both in a 2 bed then there shouldn't be a priority move because both have enough space.

But if there's a couple and a couple with 2 children in a 2 bed and a 3 bed is available they need to have policies re age of children and sex of children sharing etc to look at priority.

Like the council so for social housing.

There's a clear policy of need.

Alongside this needs to be policy re grading/ seniority of staff etc.

And it won't always come down to just size of bedrooms.

A couple could have a larger 2 bed than a family if 4 in a smaller 3 bed.

I certainly think you can't just go by number of people and bedrooms.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 09/08/2021 09:10

Too many variables to say whether it's fair or not. Yep 3or more people would prob use the extra space but theres a whole raft of reasons why it might be fair.
Is it Kensington Palace?

CrunchiestCru · 09/08/2021 09:11

@RedToothBrush I’m beginning to see that by trying to keep it simple I’ve ended up making it sound worse!

Only difference is floor space technically.

Personally if I knew a family were being given a smaller accommodation than me and they were same grade etc I’d feel awkward/selfish as there’s only two of us.

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godmum56 · 09/08/2021 09:11

yabu from the information you have given