Page 3 | Training cover — ahead of mat leave STRANGE REQUEST.

Rosefer · 2021-08-09T07:11:53+00:00

I will be on mat leave in the new year, my cover is currently shadowing and has asked to record me. We work remote, and shadowing is normal in the role. I politely explained I don’t feel comfortable being recorded. She insisted she needs to learn like this and taking notes isn't enough. She went on to state she wants to learn; the issue is the willingness of whoever wants to teach her. I am putting in time to assist her and provide her exposure to all aspects of the job. Feeling a little sad and confused about this situation. :(

Valeriekat · 09/08/2021 21:01

The "different learning styles" theory has largely been shown to be false in education. As other posters have pointed out, it is a handover and not a training session.

The trainee presumably is an adult not a child.

QueenBee52 · 09/08/2021 21:02

@nanbread

A lot of ableist, inflexible attitudes on this thread. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

She's worked out how she best learns / processes information and if you can accommodate that then I think you should.

I don't think you should take this as a criticism of your handover OP, it sounds like you're putting a lot of effort in, but if you can meet her half way why not.

I wonder why you don't want to be recorded?

Could you ask her to record audio only?

No... OP is not a Trainer, its a handover, which means the person taking over the role should merit the position.

Handover is the transfer of information for responsibility of the role.

What her colleague is requesting is unreasonable, and the colleague should take that up with HR.

QueenBee52 · 09/08/2021 21:03

@Valeriekat

The "different learning styles" theory has largely been shown to be false in education. As other posters have pointed out, it is a handover and not a training session. The trainee presumably is an adult not a child.

yip 🌸

QueenBee52 · 09/08/2021 21:04

@Rainbowshit

I've been doing loads of handover work recently. Being able to record it on webex has been invaluable.

When a new member of staff started at a really busy peak time I was able to give her the recording rather than spend several hours that I couldn't really spare going over it with her.

that's great, and that's your role.. training several people.

OP's handing over for maternity leave .. very different. 🌸

nanbread · 09/08/2021 21:05

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Not being comfortable with being recorded, hence saying no isn't an ableist attitude

Who's saying it is?

AgentProvocateur · 09/08/2021 21:07

It’s pretty standard for teams calls when someone is demonstrating something to be recorded.

nanbread · 09/08/2021 21:16

@Valeriekat

The "different learning styles" theory has largely been shown to be false in education. As other posters have pointed out, it is a handover and not a training session. The trainee presumably is an adult not a child.

Maybe it's not so much a learning style as an ability - the cover has realised she struggles to take extensive notes etc.

I have ADHD and note taking can be very difficult for me. I get by usually as I have an excellent memory so remember what I've been told verbally, but if there's a lot of info to process I can only remember so much. I take notes but struggle to process what information needs to be prioritised and cannot sort information as I go, my notes are quite often useless.

QueenBee52 · 09/08/2021 21:16

@AgentProvocateur

It’s pretty standard for teams calls when someone is demonstrating something to be recorded.

yes Team calls ..

this isn't such 🌸

Valeriekat · 09/08/2021 21:23

@nanbread
That really shouldn't become the OPs problem though.
I would hate to think someone has recordings of me. What is the limit? Should school teachers allow themselves to be recorded? Doctors? Personal Trainers? Therapists? Who owns the IP?

Somuddled · 09/08/2021 21:26

I don't think this is an odd request. Handovers involve so much information and some thing you might be teaching her now won't been needed for a few months, far better to have a recording to watch back.

I wouldn't love being recorded but I would do it be I would want this person to do a good job so happy to help it making that happen.

AgentProvocateur · 09/08/2021 21:32

@QueenBee52 - apologies. I’ve misunderstood. I read that the OP worked “remotely” and assumed the cover was shadowing on Teams.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 09/08/2021 21:40

I have ADHD and note taking can be very difficult for me. I get by usually as I have an excellent memory so remember what I've been told verbally, but if there's a lot of info to process I can only remember so much. I take notes but struggle to process what information needs to be prioritised and cannot sort information as I go, my notes are quite often useless.

I am exactly the smae, but I won't make people uncomfortable. If someone isn't comfortable with being recorded, I have to respect that

QueenBee52 · 09/08/2021 21:41

[quote AgentProvocateur]@QueenBee52 - apologies. I’ve misunderstood. I read that the OP worked “remotely” and assumed the cover was shadowing on Teams.[/quote]

Oh no it's me that's wrong.. sorry 😳

You're correct, it is remote 🌸

apologies 🌺

nanbread · 09/08/2021 21:47

@SchrodingersImmigrant

I have ADHD and note taking can be very difficult for me. I get by usually as I have an excellent memory so remember what I've been told verbally, but if there's a lot of info to process I can only remember so much. I take notes but struggle to process what information needs to be prioritised and cannot sort information as I go, my notes are quite often useless.

I am exactly the smae, but I won't make people uncomfortable. If someone isn't comfortable with being recorded, I have to respect that

To be fair I would be the same. I've always been too scared to even ask to record. Maybe the cover is more assertive... fair play to them.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 09/08/2021 21:50

It's not about aksing though. Asking is fine. It's about not accepting a no

Original poster

Rosefer · 10/08/2021 09:10

Dear all, thanks I suggested she watch me and record herself. I am happy to provide input while watching her. She stated she doesn’t know what she’s doing.
Its definitely the insistence after I said no that shocks me.
I told her I dont feel comfortable with it.
Too meet her half way I created some slides step by step with annotation. She now has her visual. :)

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Rainbowshit · 10/08/2021 11:18

@queenbee52 no actually , you're completely wrong, training is not my role. It's been a very similar situation to the OP going on mat leave. The recordings have been so much more valuable than note taking.

frazzledasarock · 10/08/2021 11:31

@Rosefer

Dear all, thanks I suggested she watch me and record herself. I am happy to provide input while watching her. She stated she doesn’t know what she’s doing. Its definitely the insistence after I said no that shocks me. I told her I dont feel comfortable with it. Too meet her half way I created some slides step by step with annotation. She now has her visual. :)

How much experience does she have in this type of role?

When I went on mat leave during hand over it became rapidly clear that in order to save money my manager had hired someone with no experience, my role is quite complex although I've been doing it for years so it looks like I don't do much as I'm very good at it.

The mat cover in my case was wholly out of her depth, despite, a detailed handover and written guideline as she had no idea what the results were meant to look like.

I think you need to speak to your line manager. Show your line manager what you've given your cover and the offer to watch whilst she does the role but she's declined.

I'd be worried she is out of her depth.